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JeffreyD
Posted 2008-08-27 10:39 AM (#23670)
Subject: Stringing a Slothead


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I have discovered a new level of guitar frustration. It's only been a few years and a couple of good picture tutorials that I finally conquered stringing a "peg head" guitar. I now look forward to stringing my 1537 and 2080 as I can spend more time cleaning and primping on it, than the actual stringing.

Enter the 2008C and the beauty of the slothead. YIKES.... This is not as easy a task as I thought it would be. Got it done, but my one major concern is that the G string is less than the width of a piece of paper from touching the TRC. I do NOT want to leave any marks on the 2008.

So....how about some of the expert advice from this group on stringing a slothead so I can become proficient.
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GlennAllenHessSr
Posted 2008-08-27 10:42 AM (#23671 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead
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on my slots I string the Es wrapping toward the center, and all others outward... never had any trouble with clearance on the trc that way, even on carved ones.

don't know if it's proper to string the e strings like that, but was told by a luthier it helps with the break angle.

hope that helps,

Glenn
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-08-27 10:49 AM (#23672 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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Back in the Day I could restring and retune my 1615 in under 20 minutes...ready for the next set...
I could sill prpbably come close...wish I had a dollar for every restring... :rolleyes:
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-27 5:42 PM (#23673 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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They are just a pain in the ass, no two ways about it. Advice, don't restring them often.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-08-27 5:46 PM (#23674 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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I've found a great method... very quick, stable and easy to learn...

you'll never go back...
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Beal
Posted 2008-08-27 5:49 PM (#23675 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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what is it, just buy a new one every time?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-08-27 5:52 PM (#23676 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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The worst is my Folklore. It's nice not to have to tie the bridge end, but they still used the same tuners then as on the nylon string guitars and I have a hell of a time getting the high e to stay on there.
My Country Artist sits right now with a string that came unwound. I've got about 10 extra sets of steel strings, but no decent classicals. I just play other guitars instead.
The only bigger pain in the ass is Jeff.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-08-27 6:03 PM (#23677 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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Step 1.
With guitar on a table or the headstock in your lap, Position the hole in the tuning post vertically toward floor and ceiling.

Step 2.
Thread string end down through the post hole from ceiling to floor. Pull all slack out and keep the sting as tight as you can.

Step 3.
Wind the end of the string (that is facing the floor) back up over the post to the backside (or headstock side of the post)

Step 4.
From the inside out, tuck the string end under the string that goes down through the post.

Step 5.
Pull tight to "lock" it between the string and post. Wind the tuner to remove any other slack. Cut excess leaving about a 1/4 inch.

If you've kept the string fairly tight though-out the process, it will not slip and will tune to pitch in just a coupla twists of the tuner button.

After you've done it once or twice you'll get fast and can do it in any position. (Freebie)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-08-27 6:35 PM (#23678 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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I'll take back what I said about you being a pain in the ass, Jeff......if you come over and restring my Country Artist.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-08-27 6:47 PM (#23679 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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Jeff, you've adapted my* peghead stringing technique to slotheads! Excellent!

Mark, it'll work. When I do it on pegheads I can bring the string up to pitch with less than 1/2 turn of the post, and it never slips, as it can with a bunch of windings on the post.

*well, ok, it's not my technique, but it's how I teach people to restring...
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-08-27 6:49 PM (#23680 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead
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With a little practice a slothead is no more difficult to string than a paddle stock. You just need to be careful to 1) double back and lock the strings, and 2) cut the ends to length so you don't accidently scratch the wood. Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-08-27 7:14 PM (#23681 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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... s'ok Mark, I've learned to live with myself...


I'll draw a picture and post it so folks can see it...
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-08-27 7:22 PM (#23682 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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with this method you get no slippage and there's not even a full wrap around the post, so there is very little winding of the tuner
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-08-27 7:22 PM (#23683 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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I use a little gun-shaped cordless driver I got from lowe's (Cobalt Lithium Ion 3.6V) to do the unwinding and winding. I wind all strings toward the outside, and I wind all the string I can without it hitting the outside of the headstock. I don't really concern myself with the 2 outermost strings, but all the rest get maximum winding.

John <>[
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-08-27 7:25 PM (#23684 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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The max winding addresses the issue of hitting the center of the headstock.

John <>{
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-08-27 7:26 PM (#23685 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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Here's a page from an old Ovation manual I got with my first Country Artist.

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Beal
Posted 2008-08-28 12:21 AM (#23686 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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why not just have someone else do it?
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PEZ
Posted 2008-08-28 2:50 AM (#23687 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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AH yes the reason for the guitar tech on the road crew.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-08-28 2:54 AM (#23688 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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So changing strings on slotheads is a new skill to learn. I'm buying a slothead because the guitar I want has a slothead. For those who would order a custom guitar with a slothead, what is the advantage/attraction of the slothead itself?
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PEZ
Posted 2008-08-28 3:05 AM (#23689 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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Originally posted by MusicMishka:
Back in the Day I could restring and retune my 1615 in under 20 minutes...ready for the next set...
I could sill prpbably come close...wish I had a dollar for every restring... :rolleyes:
I can't do a 6 string that fast
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sycamore
Posted 2008-08-28 4:41 AM (#23690 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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Originally posted by The Artist (FKA Richard):
...For those who would order a custom guitar with a slothead, what is the advantage/attraction of the slothead itself?
I wondered that too. It looks more 'vintage' ? Or it's a neater way to accomodate 12 machine heads?
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-08-28 5:38 AM (#23691 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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You guys are PUassy's All you got to do is think at 90 degrees from what you're used to. It's easy. Just put the guitar in a herc stand, get a string winder, and get to it. Shouldn't take more than 20 min start to finish.
(man, this thread takes two screens to view) :eek:
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Waskel
Posted 2008-08-28 7:11 AM (#23692 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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Jeff's Mac seems to be unable to resize images...
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-08-28 7:46 AM (#23693 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead



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He just made it really big so those with crappy PC screens could see it through the pixelated haze.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-08-28 8:18 AM (#23694 - in reply to #23670)
Subject: Re: Stringing a Slothead


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I just didn't realize is was that big (the .ning site doesn't show them full-sized) until it was posted here. Some where between ning and here it gets a good dose of androstenedione
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