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greg1456
Posted 2006-05-10 1:59 AM (#255477)
Subject: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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Hello,
I am interested in getting an Ovation. I went to a music store and they told me they would sell me the USA-made balladeer 1861 (old stock but still "new" without a tuner) for $500 no case. I could also get them to order me a Pinnacle CU 147 (Korean-made with AA spruce top) for $399 The USA-made sounds like a good deal but I want the guitar to hold its own acoustically and I'm worried the s/shallow bowl might inhibit this even though it sounds good. The CU 147 has a medium bowl which I understand to be more ballsy unplugged compared to a shallow bowl. Which should I go for??? Again, the Balladeer although "new" has been sitting in the store for a few years. Please email me with any thoughts at: Obramayer@AOL.com Thanks!
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cruster
Posted 2006-05-10 8:49 AM (#255478 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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I could be wrong (I generally am), but all USian Ovations come with a factory hard shell case.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-05-10 9:05 AM (#255479 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???



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Probably find a better deal through the OFC.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-05-10 9:22 AM (#255480 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???



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Stephen's right.
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-05-10 9:49 AM (#255481 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???



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If your looking for unplugged sound, skip the shallow bowl.
Although the Pinnacle has a mid-bowl....pass on it... you can do much better.
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GregoryS.
Posted 2006-05-10 10:01 AM (#255482 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???
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All USA made Ovations come with a hardshell case, except FRG's and "New/Old" stock...
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brainslag
Posted 2006-05-10 10:18 AM (#255483 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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All new USA Ovations come with case, but some music stores sell the guitar w/o case, and sell the case to someone else. Sweet deal for the store. Pass on the pinnacle and the shallow bowl. You should be able to buy a USA Legend (a few years old in good to excellent condition) on eBay for 500.00 or less, with whatever bowl size you prefer.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-10 10:27 AM (#255484 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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There's a red Legend on ebay for sale by Paul Blanchard. He's Roundback on ebay. I think the buy it now is $499. Buy it so I don't. Paul is an honest guy who knows his Ovations and probably other guitars, too. That would be a great first guitar. It would have been a great 10th or so guitar.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2006-05-10 10:34 AM (#255485 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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My first Ovation was a Legend. Wish it wouldn't have gotten stolen. If you're serious, get Paul's on eBay.
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Jeff
Posted 2006-05-10 11:31 AM (#255486 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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Another vote for "roundback's" Legend. Great guitar, great price and great seller! You can't go wrong.
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Mitchrx
Posted 2006-05-10 1:21 PM (#255487 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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Ebay is the place to go these days for a great used Ovation. Skip the shallow bowl and look for a Legend or an Elite. Here\'s a nice Elite

If you want a new guitar, go to Al Pepiak\'s Website and talk to Al about an Elite T .
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Steve
Posted 2006-05-10 2:10 PM (#255488 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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Mitchrx, That Elite is one of the best values on ebay right now. Excellent condition and no reserve. It would be worth buying and sending to Ovation for just a minimal restoration. Nice guitar.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-05-10 2:16 PM (#255489 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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That's another excellent choice that may depend upon whether you like the single or multiple soundholes. This board is way too helpful. If I was in your position right now, Greg, I'd probably by both the Legend and Elite and then I'd be in real trouble.
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Steve
Posted 2006-05-10 4:28 PM (#255490 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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If I had the bucks I'd bid on it and I don't really like multiple soundholes, but I know an '87 Elite is going to vibrate big time; this sound board is dry and very stable. Plus with a 5-piece neck, you can do alternative tunings with no worries. This one should get some serious bids.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2006-05-10 10:53 PM (#255491 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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My first ever Ovation guitar was a 1861, which I still own today. Honestly, I'm quite happy with it, but don't expect too much from it unplugged. The guitar does come to life when it's amplified. If you want an excellent sounding guitar unplugged, shoot for a deep-bowl Ovation. For about $500 bucks, there are many great deals being offered in the Sell/Trade section of this website, or on ebay. As far as I know, the U.S. made models should come with a hardshell case.

Good luck.
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-05-10 11:09 PM (#255492 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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I agree to an extent - being one of the only real fans of shallow bowls in the OFC. My first was an 1869 Custom Legend, and I played it unplugged only for seven years and never had a complaint. It doesn't have as good of projection and overall volume as the deeper bodies (obviously), but it fits my playing style just fine. And, plugged in, it sounds just great.

Decide whether you like the idea of single or multiple holes better, and how much depth you want to work with on the guitar. I have a shallow 1869 in real nice shape on ebay right now (check the For Sale section), and also own one of the Elite T's in a deep body and love playing both.

The only problem with this board, as Mark mentioned, is there can sometimes be TOO much good advice. Pick a flavor and start - it doesn't have to be your last.
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Pokeypup
Posted 2006-05-10 11:34 PM (#255493 - in reply to #255477)
Subject: Re: First time Ovation player--which guitar???


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Andrew has a great guitar for sale. (Edensharvest)

The 1869 is a very nice shallow bowl. A real boomer! I have one and I love her. You should check his guitar out. I was shy of the shallow bowl until I played her. Great sound and the carved bridge is very sweet.
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