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Location: NJ | And Tork occasionally did duo gigs w/Stephen Stills (who recommended him when Stills passed on the part) . . . |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by TommyK:
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As much as I respect Nesmith, that title belongs to the likes of Bill Haley, Buddy Holly, Tennessee Earnie Ford, Orbeson, Johnny Burnett, ELVIS :eek: for God's sake, Johnny Cash, Buck Owens, Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins and the like.
I don't really mean to come out bustin' your chops, but history is history and shouldn't be re-written because someone's your hero. You can bust my chops all you like but I'm afraid it's you who needs a little update in ETHNOMUSICOLOGY :eek: for god's sake
I agree that the people you mentioned were important figures in Country Music, Rockabilly and Rock 'n' Roll. But the term and indeed genre "Country-Rock" in the contemporary sense grew specifically out of, and was applied to the late 60's and early 70's Los Angeles music scene, in particular musicians associated with the Troubador club on Sunset Strip. (Ronstadt, The Eagles, Parsons, Nesmith, Emmylou, etc etc) I'm not rewriting history at all, it's just that your idea of history seems to grind to a halt in the late 50's
This is hardly definitive but it might help a little
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country_rock
Ultimately all American music is a result of cross-pollenation, which has been happening forever. Western-swing was a bunch of white hillbillies trying to copy black guys playing jazz. Early soul was a bunch of black folks emulating white country music. Before they knew he was a white guy Elvis's early records were filed in the "race" section of record stores.
You can call music anything you like, it's just a name. Right now we have "Americana" and "Alt-country" Big deal, it's just marketing-speak for people who are too hip to admit they like country music. Country-Rock was of a time, and when I said "Country-Rock" I was referring very specifically to well-documented events which happened in LA 35+ years ago, not what happens historically, artistically, conceptually and culturally when musicians assimilate other musical forms. |
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Location: Yucaipa, California | And Tork occasionally did duo gigs w/Stephen Stills (who recommended him when Stills passed on the part) . . . ...hmmm Crosby, Stills, Nash and Tork.... :rolleyes: |
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Location: NJ | Mighta' been more like Crosby, Tork, Nash & Young . . .
(tho I doubt Peter woulda' survived . . .) |
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Location: Cicero, NY | Originally posted by cliff:
(tho I doubt Peter woulda' survived . . .) Talk about a wasted opportunity, eh? |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I think pop tunesmiths Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart toured with some amalgamation of the Monkees as well. Appropriate enough as they wrote a lot of the songs.
Nesmith has never, to my knowledge had anything to do with the Monkees since the disolution of the group. He has no need and a profound dislike for the project. |
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Location: Scotland | He toured with them to promote the "Justus" reunion album a few years ago. Pretty much stood at the back of the stage, hiding under a baseball cap playing a GK2-equipped Strat. He may as well not have bothered. Apparently it wasn't a great experience for any of them, it certainly wasn't for the audiences. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Temp, wouldn't Ricky Nelson fall into that early country-rock genre? |
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Location: Scotland | Some of his 70's output I guess, the "Garden Party" album certainly would. |
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Location: Fayetteville, NC | The monkees took over playing on the lp's starting with the third lp headquarters. There was a power struggle between the 4 and Don Kirshner who oversaw the music. finally it was agreed upon that the single releases had to have the guys playing their own instruments. when Kirshner tried to release a single in canada with all studio musicians and just the guys doing vocals..Screen gems found out and fired kirshner. Thus was the beginning of allowing the guys to have control over their own music at least they were allowed to play. Michael Nesmith and Peter tork were Very Happy with the decison as they both wanted the unit to actually become a band. Dolenz and jones were indifferent but went along for the ride... and what a ride it was.. |
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Rats! My Hopes are Dashed once again!
