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willard
Posted 2006-07-15 11:07 AM (#247465)
Subject: OT:Legal downloads


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So I'm legal with all my downloads. I pay the 99 cents and try to get them from the artist’s web sites first and then will go to MSN or iTunes. My questions is, is there a program out there that will convert the music to MP3 and strip all the license crap? Sometime, Windows can’t find the license and won’t’ play the tune. Most of my music is in MP3 and I would like all of it to be.
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dvd
Posted 2006-07-15 12:55 PM (#247466 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads



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Well, with iTunes, you're allowed to burn a certain number of copies of your songs. So create a playlist with the songs you want to burn. burn them to CD. back up the files elsewhere on your computer, then delete them from your library. Then RIP/Import that CD back into iTunes or another music manager as MP3's. I think you may lose a little quality but you get the desired effect of wiping out the DRM . Unfortunately in doing so you are making legal downloads into illegal downloads, as circumventing DRM violates the DMCA . You'd also be pissing off the RIAA . Not that there's anything wrong with that! :p
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Stephen P
Posted 2006-07-15 1:37 PM (#247467 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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If you want to use a (legal) music downloading service, I believe Emusic has straight up mp3's, no digital rights management.
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Down2TheC
Posted 2006-07-15 2:13 PM (#247468 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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[rant]Go to the library and rip what you own from the real CD. This buck-a-song crap is truly outrageous. You're taking away the cost of distribution, packaging, production, and inventory and you're still paying $15 for a CD of tunes. Then they give you crap quality files with DRM mucking up the works. When Mayer put out some live concerts on iTunes for a buck a song, I saw red. It was a straight board recording, no mixing so it cost them zero. 15 minutes for a sound guy to chop it into songs and convert to MP3. So after the first couple dowloads it was all profit for Mayer and iTunes. Bastages! [/rant]
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willard
Posted 2006-07-15 3:04 PM (#247469 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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The burn..rip technique is what I do now. It just seems there should be a way to do it without wasting a CD. I realize the $1/song is BS but at lest the artist get something for their music. It's no more BS than the music industry itself. What really gets me pissed off is the whole radio/airplay crap. There are a lot of really good artists that never get any recognition since they don't have the right connections and money.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-07-15 3:15 PM (#247470 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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" I realize the $1/song is BS but at lest the artist get something for their music."

Let me know when you know of an artist that gets any of that $1.00.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-07-16 12:56 AM (#247471 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads



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Willard, if you want to email me a couple of the ptoblem tunes, I will run them through a few programs I use and see if it will clean them up.
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muzza
Posted 2006-07-29 6:20 AM (#247472 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads



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Originally posted by willard:
The burn..rip technique is what I do now. It just seems there should be a way to do it without wasting a CD.
So use a CD-RW instead. No waste!
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First Alternate
Posted 2006-07-29 7:47 AM (#247473 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads
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Let me know when you know of an artist that gets any of that $1.00. [/QB]

I don't pay the dollar to make sure Dave Matthews can feed his kids, I pay it so my door won't be kicked in by the ASCAP Storm Troopers at dawn.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2006-07-29 7:58 AM (#247474 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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I accidentally ran into this website while browsing at random:

http://www.allofmp3.com

Has anyone ever used this??

The site is in Russia -- and perhaps either the artists don't see a dime, or the very week value of the Russian currency against the U.S. dollar -- it seems unbelievable that entire albums can be downloaded for less than $1.50, or individual songs for as little as .10 cents. The website also allows you to preview songs, and provide a choice of music files when downloading it, whether it be MP3, WMA, or OGG.

If anyone has/had ever used this, please post your comment(s). I was tempted to download songs from this site, but I'm hesitant to provide my credit card info., as it seems like a ripoff to me.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-07-29 10:52 AM (#247475 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads



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Apparently it's legal... in Russia.

No way would I give a site like this credit card numbers.
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jb
Posted 2006-07-29 12:09 PM (#247476 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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One of the other boards I used to frequent used to use that Russian site. I'm sure they still do, I just don't check in there anymore.

It's stretching the boundaries of legal, but legal it is. Just (I don't know the ins and outs of it, but apparently so).

I never heard of any of the hundreds of people I know for a fact did use that having anything happen to their cards. And believe me, they are the type of people who would have said so.

In Red.

And Bold.

And size 48 font.

JB
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-07-30 2:28 AM (#247477 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
" I realize the $1/song is BS but at lest the artist get something for their music."

Let me know when you know of an artist that gets any of that $1.00.
Well I guess I get to qoute myself. It turns out the artists do see some pretty good change from downloads, but wait.. there's more...

Something I hadn't thought about, and it was actually a surprise to my friend also, is that the artists also get $'s from downloads of ringtones. I'm assuming this is people using parts of songs as ringtones or just downloading to phones. I hadn't thought of that, but it's nice to know they are getting "real" money.

Learn something new every day.
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jb
Posted 2006-07-30 5:11 AM (#247478 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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This "friend" of yours, Miles.

He wouldn't be a sort of amphibian wearing nothing but an old-style flying helmet, would he?

(Apologies if this is only funny to the British contingent... notes for people now scratching their head:- a recent craze here in the UK's ringtones is something called the "Crazy Frog". I'm not gonig to elaborate any further, as it annoys the bits off me. If he hasn't reached USA's fair shores... be grateful!!)

JB
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muzza
Posted 2006-07-31 6:33 AM (#247479 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads



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We get the same Crazy Frog commercials Downunder. Have you noticed that before 9pm he has a pixellated groin, and after 9pm, he has a little willy.
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John B
Posted 2006-07-31 10:25 AM (#247480 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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I use ITunes and swear by it. The sound quality is awesome and the $1.00 per song price seems reasonable enough to me. Most full albums cost $9.99 when you buy the whole thing which is better than you're likely to do elswhere. I also bought a small (40 gig) external plug and play hard drive to back up all of my music. I never thought that I would be an "IPod" guy, but I'm hooked. I just bought my wife the IPod Nano for her birthday and she loves it too.
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Highway61
Posted 2006-07-31 4:46 PM (#247481 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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I'm grateful for the technology (being able to listen to great music while biking and running w/o carrying an ever-skipping CD player is great)--and there is an excellent selection of music (and podcasts, etc.); but I hate the interface. It's hideous and overcrowded in regard to info. It's sort of a Wal-Mart of music, and I would prefer to go somewhere that is much more aesthetic.
However, there really is nowhere else better right now, so to iTunes I go.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-08-01 5:58 AM (#247482 - in reply to #247465)
Subject: Re: OT:Legal downloads


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I signed up at the allofmp3.com too. Wish I would have known about it before I started with iTunes. I will admit iTunes is a bit easier to work with as it is directly integrated with the iPod, but.... for about 1.50 an album vs $1 per song... I can be inconvenienced. I also find that they have some things tunes that iTunes doesn't have, so that was a nice score. As example iTunes had Iron Butterfly, but not the In-A-Gadda-da-Vida album which allofMP3 did have. Same for Gentle Giant "Civilian".
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