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Location: south east Michigan | I'm suffering through a learning curve with the Omega/Lexicon/Cuebase recorder-mixer. I plug the XLR cable into the mic input in the back of the mixer. The guitar only come through when the tuner is active. Tuner goes off...guitar cuts out.
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Location: closely held secret | Brad, this doesn't sound like the recorder is at fault (unless of course everything is correct and the recorder's phantom power supply is faulty).
Which guitar/preamp are you using?
The preamp should be active when the tuner is on, when something is plugged into the 1/4" jack or when phantom power is available through the XLR (with the appropriate cable). If the recorder doesn't provide phantom power you'll need to plug something into the 1/4" jack to activate the preamp. If it does provide phantom, you might be using an XLR cable which does not have pin 1 to the shell. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | This should be in Mile's FAQ thread... |
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Location: NW NJ | Sounds like the pin 1 to shell issue to me -- assuming the recorder is supplying phantom. |
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Location: Tennessee | You need a dummy plug in the 1/4 out. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Ahhh. I bet it's a phantom power issue.
The pre-amp is the OP-Pro. Does the same thing with the UTE or the AD-II.
I'm using a mic input on the mixer. |
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Location: closely held secret | But does the mixer supply phantom? If so, it's probably the cable. If not, you need a 1/4" dummy plug. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Betting it's the mic cable. Try a different brand since some mic cables are grounded differently than others. |
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Location: south east Michigan | It's a brand new cable...fresh out of the bag. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | needs to be the proper type of XLR cable...ground to shell as Waskel mentioned |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Look on the bright side, if you have to have the tuner ON in order to play maybe you'll have a better chance of playing IN TUNE. Dave |
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Location: NJ | Are y'sure that one of the fringes on that suede vest isn't caught in the jack?? |
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Location: south east Michigan | Hold on... lemme check...
Nope..that's not it.
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Location: NW NJ | Brad - we have given you the probable answer in bits and pieces. Here's the whole story in terms that I can understand it.
1. To let the preamp in the guitar power itself via the XLR cable, the recorder or mixer needs to be able to supply phantom power and it has to be turned on. There should be a phantom power switch on the recorder/mixer.
2. Once that is done, you have to use the "correct" cable. You need one that is wired with pin 1 (ground) to shell. Some cables are made that way, some aren't - regardless of if they are new or not.
3. If you have the right cable and phantom power turned on, your preamp will power and work just fine. Your post said that it works while the tuner is on and then cuts out. When you turn on the tuner, the preamp is active - when it times out the preamp shuts down too. Leads me to believe that you have the wrong cable or phantom is not on.
4. The fast fix, although it uses the 9V battery in your guitar to power the preamp, is to plug in a "dummy" 1/4" phono plug into the 1/4" jack on the guitar along with the XLR cable. This turns the preamp on like you were plugging into a guitar amp and will make the XLR work. Keep a dummy plug in your case, and when you plug in an XLR cable and it doesn't work, all you have to grab the dummy plug and you are in business. Don't use the dummy plug if the XLR jack works without it.
You probably already know and understand all this already, but sometimes it helps me to see all the stuff in one train of thought. PM me your address and I'll send you a couple of dummy plugs so you'll have them around in case you ever need one. |
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Location: closely held secret | Thanks, Robbie, leave it to you to make things clear and complete(is that a recognized disorder?).
Brad, get your ohmmeter... (you do have an ohmmeter, don't you? :rolleyes: )... and check to see if you have continuity between pin 1 (pins should be marked on the female end) and the metal shell (on both ends). If you have one with a plastic shell, shame on you for being so cheap and it won't work.
And Robbie's correct, it's always good to keep a dummy with you. I've found ventriloquists are rarely around when you really need (or want) them. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | All this time I thought a dummy plug was something I put in my mouth. Actually, I figured it out by myself after the microphone cable I bought didn't work on the 99 Collector's. I'm sure it was by accident, but I can't even find the track, much less have a 4 part train of thought. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Thanks Robbie.
You made that very clear.
I'll just list my address here. Afterall, it is already on this site in about a dozen other places.
Brad DUrasa
7262 Audubon
Algonac, MI 48001
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you do have an ohmmeter, don't you? Isn't that some sort of device to use during meditation??? OOHHmmmmmmm OOHHmmmmmm
No.. I don't got one of those. |
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Location: closely held secret | You just need to check for continuity. Anything with low voltages could tell you. Say, disconnect one of the leads from a speaker (you do have speakers, don't you?) and hold it against the shell. Take a short piece of wire and use it to jump from pin 1 to the speaker post. If the speaker works (turn the stereo on...) then the cable should work fine.
If you don't have speakers, take the cord from a table lamp, and... |
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Location: south east Michigan | Thanks John. :D |
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Location: closely held secret | :D No problem, buddy. |
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