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Paulcc1
Posted 2006-11-10 1:54 PM (#232211)
Subject: Need some feedback


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I am thinking of getting the Alesis IO2 USB Audio Interface for my computer so I may record on the computer. Is anyone familiar with this unit?
Thanks Pauly
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alpep
Posted 2006-11-10 2:02 PM (#232212 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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nope I am familiar with the m audio stuff. I am looking to put together a system for recording but I just don't know if I want to go mac or pc. I also don't have enough bucks to do either the way I want to do it. for me to spend a ton of bucks on a priopritary machine for recording is just not cost effective right now.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-10 3:22 PM (#232213 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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Doesn't have to be proprietary, Al. I'm in the process of building a new Core 2 Duo machine for recording, but I'm going to make it dual-boot so my wife can use it for her business. That way we have a partition for every day use, and my audio partition stays clean and lean. :cool:
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-10 3:30 PM (#232214 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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Pauly, I haven't tried one, but the reviews I've seen (not a lot of them out there) are pretty positive. Cheaper than firewire, but a lot of people experience latency problems with USB interfaces. Make sure you have no other USB devices plugged in when you're trying to use it.
What are the specs on your computer?
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alpep
Posted 2006-11-10 3:44 PM (#232215 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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waskel

I am currently looking at the korg d 3200

I have had too many computer problems to not dedicate the machine to recording only
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Paulcc1
Posted 2006-11-10 3:52 PM (#232216 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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Specs are ok the printer is the only other USB plugged in thanks guys.
Pauly
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stephent28
Posted 2006-11-10 3:53 PM (#232217 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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Al, I had a Korg D1600 that was a very nice unit and the 3200 specs out much nicer than the 1600.

I think you will be very happy with it.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-11-10 3:58 PM (#232218 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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Waskel, just ordered myself a E6700 dual core.

The dual boot is something I was really interested in, so we gotta talk!
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alpep
Posted 2006-11-10 4:03 PM (#232219 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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Originally posted by stephent28:
Al, I had a Korg D1600 that was a very nice unit and the 3200 specs out much nicer than the 1600.

I think you will be very happy with it.
currently have a d1600 but the older version no usb blah blah blah.. it drives me crazy
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BalladeerFun
Posted 2006-11-10 4:05 PM (#232220 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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I've got a Korg 1600 and have had a gas using it... I'm up to about 50 songs on it...
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stephent28
Posted 2006-11-10 4:30 PM (#232221 - in reply to #232211)
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Al, that sounds like the original unit I had. Great but had a lot of early limitations that the newer ones correct.


plus 16 extra tracks never hurts! ;)
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alpep
Posted 2006-11-10 4:57 PM (#232222 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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Originally posted by stephent28:
Al, that sounds like the original unit I had. Great but had a lot of early limitations that the newer ones correct.


plus 16 extra tracks never hurts! ;)
when I got it I loved it, then when I started to want to stretch out with it, I was disappointed.

I am taking myself into the d 3200
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-10 4:57 PM (#232223 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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Originally posted by stephent28:
Waskel, just ordered myself a E6700 dual core.
Not to be geeky, but...

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

People are O/Cing those to over 4Ghz.

I'm going with the modest 6300 - that only O/C's to 3Ghz. :cool:

Which mobo are you using?
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muzza
Posted 2006-11-10 5:21 PM (#232224 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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I've got a dual core minimac and it dual boots - but I only use windoze for a few activities. Fantastic to have both OSs on one machine.

I wasn't aware that you can install Mac OSX on the 'other' dual core machines?

I haven't gone the audio interface route yet, but after some research I decided I was going to go with firewire. The Presonus had good reviews, but the M-audio and Tascam setups seemed to have a lot of negative posts with Mac owners.

Try googling to find a forum more specific to digital audio, there's lots of infomation (and opinions) out there.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-10 5:27 PM (#232225 - in reply to #232211)
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You probably can't... but I can't think of a reason I'd want to.

Oh, wait...... no, can't think of one. :D
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-10 5:29 PM (#232226 - in reply to #232211)
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Studio Central is the best one I've found.
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muzza
Posted 2006-11-10 5:33 PM (#232227 - in reply to #232211)
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Al mentioned not knowing whether to go Mac or PC. You mentioned dual boot in the next post. I assumed that dual boot meant booting up in either Windoze or Mac.

... and lets not go there, Waskel.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-10 6:40 PM (#232228 - in reply to #232211)
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No problem, Muzza. As I've stated before, I have nothing against Macs, I just prefer the soft- and hardware choices in the M$ world.

I just meant dual Windows partitions. When audio/video support for Linux becomes more common, I'll probably go to a Windows/Linux system.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2006-11-10 9:47 PM (#232229 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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I do not understand " 2 hoots" of this all , but I`m currently looking at home recording stuff,here`s what I`ve been thinking of ,..a machine ,that has ..
# 1..mixer..mic/Line inputs
# 2..hard drive & cd recorder
# 3..I do n`t friggin`know...
I am a total novice at this :( ,so do I need a computer,what is the benefit of that ? :confused:
Could I just not buy a machine,to record my...
#1 guitars
#2 mic(s)
#3 stay sane ?
all this for a meager,let`s say..1500 usd.
Basically ,a little home recording studio of high quality and easy to use,any & every suggestion will be carefully considered & appreciated :)

Vic
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stephent28
Posted 2006-11-11 12:19 AM (#232230 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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Vic, if you don't want to jump into a pc/mac DAW then a stand alone system like Al is talking about is an excellent way to go.

There are upsides and downsides to every type of system. You just have to choose which poison you prefer.

$1500 would get you an excellent stand alone system to record with.

$1500 would not get you a good PC/Mac based DAW.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-11 12:22 AM (#232231 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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i still have a tape setup from high school....i doubt if it still even works....jason
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stephent28
Posted 2006-11-11 12:26 AM (#232232 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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Waskel, I went with the E6700 because I heard/read/was told that when running audio applications OCing served absolutely no purpose and did not show any performance gains.

However....if you are into gaming, then OCing is a big deal.

Needless to say, I did not plan on OCing this one.

Regarding the dual boot, I want both setups essentially the same except one will have all the virus crap and internet connections for updating the software, etc. Boot 2 would be a stripped to the core without anything except drivers and the sequencers.

I tried the different "user profile" approach but the basic programs would still load unless I disabled them (and then still had crap in memory) Disabling the hardware and software would carry over to the original profile and I would have to start them back up.

Is it safe to assume that my 2nd partition (on the boot drive) could be only about 40 gig to hold the operating system and everything else reside on the 2nd drive?
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2006-11-11 3:12 AM (#232233 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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Okayy...stayed up all night to look into all those "wizard" machines ,including that Korg D3200,but...is n`t that a piece of "Professional" equipment ,when even a "Die-Hard" such as Alpep is considering it :confused: I mean..I want to fiddle with recording myself,but I`m not considering building a "drive-in" recording studio :eek: ,after all,I do realize that ;..mic`s , cables , etc. are needed ,on the other hand ,the machine looks small,soo..question is ;..why that one..is it good value for money..extendable..what/when/how...aaargh.. HELP ! .... Please...!!

and what`s all that computer stuff about :confused:

Vic
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alpep
Posted 2006-11-11 6:13 AM (#232234 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback


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Originally posted by Enfant Terrible aka V-Elite:
Okayy...stayed up all night to look into all those "wizard" machines ,including that Korg D3200,but...is n`t that a piece of "Professional" equipment ,when even a "Die-Hard" such as Alpep is considering it Vic
Vic
I am putting together a home studio. the Korg or roland or tascam or any of the other stand alone units have many advantages.

the don't crash or glitch.
they are optimized for one task only and that is recording. and they do it well. YES you can get pro sounding recordings out of them.

smaller learning curve.
you are not dealing with software programs as much as touch screens. they are often a little more intuitive.

portable
you can take these to a gig a party etc and get a killer recording.

cost
cheaper than buying interfaces and putting together a computer and buying software.

my intention is probably get a korg d3200 but then couple it with a computer so I can more easily alter tracks with sonar or pro tools. that way I can have the best of both worlds and not have to worry about computer glitches and have maximum flexibility and bang for the buck.

believe me I have been through recording gigs with sony walkmen adats and hard disk recorders.
they all have advantages and disadvantages. and it depends where you want to be with it.

personally i would love to get a studer and just do tape
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stephent28
Posted 2006-11-11 11:44 AM (#232235 - in reply to #232211)
Subject: Re: Need some feedback



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Vic, there are many lower cost, less complicated units than the D3200 that Al is looking at.

I don't know if he is selling or has sold it but maybe Al's old D1600 would be a good unit in your price range.

There are also excellent 8 channel units from Korg, Boss, Tascam and others that would be very nice for what you are trying to do....all for under $1000 and in some cases less than $500.

As Al mentioned....there are many advantages to these type of units....especially for the novice user. The main drawback is flexibility and the inability to cut/paste/patch individual measures of the music.

Other than that, stand alone units are great and most of us that have moved on to the DAWs started out on them.

Let me check and post some links of some nice modest units.....or maybe some of the others will post some links for you to consider.
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