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samova
Posted 2006-11-14 9:50 AM (#231804)
Subject: Carbon fiber shortage


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Im not sure if anyone else has posted anything here about this.I wonder how this will effect the price of the adamas series guitars? CA guitars has already raised their guitar prices to around $3000.00 recently.They are now right up there with rainsong.


http://www.fibreglast.com/carbonfibershortage
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-11-14 9:55 AM (#231805 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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I've looked deeply into this as it directly affects a project that I'm working on. It'll be interesting to see if they start to utilize some of the alternatives - fiberglass or hybrid materials. I'm not sure how much of the use of the CF is structural on the Adamii guitars or just because it looks good.

We'll see what the future brings... everyone grab an Adamas while we can still get them.
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an4340
Posted 2006-11-14 10:07 AM (#231806 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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One of two things will happen.
Eventually, there will be an alternative developed because the price is going up, or, the demand will slacken due to various factors, like the war ending. I'm not worried, though I have to admit I never really thought about a change due to the rimshot of the war on adamas materials, but it makes sense given what they're made out of.
Everything in the world is connected, like ripples in a pond.
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2006-11-14 10:47 AM (#231807 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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Don't forget ... if we suddenly pull out of Iraq... availability could be worse...

OK cliff, chime in. :D
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-14 11:06 AM (#231808 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage



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:D
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45flint
Posted 2006-11-14 11:21 AM (#231809 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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I emailed CA on another issue and mentioned the shortage of Carbon Fiber and they said not to worry they have plenty. Don't know if that was BS or not. There were complaints on another website on the CA price hikes. Their most expenseve model is now the X which was hiked $200 retail last week. They could just be taking advantage of demand, they just are getting it back into production. I have had my used X for a couple weeks now and have adjusted the action to were I like it. It is so sweet, a OM compact size guitar that weights nothing with this wonderful even sound acoustically and electrically. I can't keep my hands off it.
Steve
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-11-14 1:50 PM (#231810 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage
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What happened?? Did they cut the last Carbon Fiber tree down?? Cut me some slack man...
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cliff
Posted 2006-11-14 2:40 PM (#231811 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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". . OK cliff, chime in . ."


Isn't it true that in Converse they think that "Carbon Fibre" is that black thing that runs down the center of a pencil??
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stephent28
Posted 2006-11-14 2:50 PM (#231812 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage



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I thought Converse was a shoe.....
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2006-11-14 3:13 PM (#231813 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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We make Nike shoes in Converse.
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gh1
Posted 2006-11-14 3:24 PM (#231814 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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Doesn't carbon fiber come from the Barb Conifer or the Cabboner Fir?

in any event Converse Cabon Fiber is good "for nice crabber ovens"



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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-11-14 3:39 PM (#231815 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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GH1 Wrote:

Doesn't carbon fiber come from the Barb Conifer or the Cabboner Fir?

in any event Converse Cabon Fiber is good "for nice crabber ovens"
eh??? :confused:
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gh1
Posted 2006-11-14 3:42 PM (#231816 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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they're anagrams -- i'm a bit bored too i guess.

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brainslag
Posted 2006-11-15 10:39 AM (#231817 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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I don't think it will drive the price up. Look at the numbers: Each Airbus A380 uses 70,000 metric TONS of carbon fiber. How many Adamii could be built with that?
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-15 10:45 AM (#231818 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage



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One, but it would be really hard to hold on your lap.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-15 10:47 AM (#231819 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage



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Originally posted by gh1:
in any event Converse Cabon Fiber is good "for nice crabber ovens"
gh1
S'matter, Greg? Couldn't find a use for that third "R"?
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cliff
Posted 2006-11-15 10:48 AM (#231820 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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The Airbus A380 . . . and the Adamas Q :

TWO things that aren't being built . . .
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gh1
Posted 2006-11-15 11:41 AM (#231821 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
S'matter, Greg? Couldn't find a use for that third "R"?
WELLLLL, i thought about it a bit and i think Converse Carbon Fiber is best for the "crabber forensic oven". But could also be used to "Vaccine freeborn orbs". And if the price really takes off it could be used to "finance robber covers".

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Waskel
Posted 2006-11-15 11:53 AM (#231822 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage



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Nicely done.

You do have a lot of time on your hands today, don't you?
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gh1
Posted 2006-11-15 11:56 AM (#231823 - in reply to #231804)
Subject: Re: Carbon fiber shortage


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Originally posted by The Wabbit Formerly Known As Waskel:
Nicely done.

You do have a lot of time on your hands today, don't you?
Or access to an anagram engine :)

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