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Trader Jim
Posted 2006-11-14 1:51 PM (#231713)
Subject: garonemartin on Ebay


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Many of you may remember the mystery man with 0 feedback, garonemartin, who seems to keep poping up and driving bids up on Ovations. You may also remember that I was bidding on an Adamas II 12 string when this guy showed up and started bidding. I bid one more time before the close, and then retracted my bid, leaving him as the high bidder when the auction closed. This was on Nov 4th, so I kept the auction in my "not won" section. Yesterday, I sent an email to the seller asking if he still had the guitar, as I still see no feedback for this guy. Just got an email back, stating that he (the seller) still had it and couldn't seem to contact the buyer, who still hasn't paid. Now he says he will sell it to me, no mention of price. Now my question is, don't you think this guy (garonemartin) should have gathered some neg feedback by now, or is this some kind of scam? Whats your take on it?
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-11-14 2:13 PM (#231714 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay
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You do not have as much protection if it is not an Ebay auction. Paypal has some options for you. It seems to me the bidder you mention is the same person as the seller. In my mind this guy can't run a fair auction so that means he must not be a fair or honest person. I do not deal with people like this if there is the slightest doubt.
Perhaps there is an OFC member who can pick this guitar up for you and mail it off?? Of course you'd have to trust an Ovation Fan to not just buy it for themselves! ???

Randy
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-14 2:18 PM (#231715 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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i got a second chance offer of a adamas II last night for $750.00....i had the high bid over gonemartin but the reserve wasnt met...seems kinds fishy..jason
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gh1
Posted 2006-11-14 2:22 PM (#231716 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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on second chance offers: the number one scam.

Be sure you have the offer in your ebay messages, and reply from there.

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gh1
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-11-14 2:46 PM (#231717 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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this one was legit,,but the bowl looks like it was set on fire !!!!! lol..im gonna leave it alone..jason
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-11-14 4:11 PM (#231718 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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I'd watch out for that guy. I didn't think he was a sham bidder because he bid on a lot of different guitars, but if he was getting the high bids and not paying, there is something fishy.
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Steve
Posted 2006-11-14 4:26 PM (#231719 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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..report garonemartin to ebay, maybe they will dump him..
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Trader Jim
Posted 2006-11-14 5:44 PM (#231720 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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Supposedly thats what the seller of the 12 Adamas is doing now. We'll see what happens.
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Northcountry
Posted 2006-11-14 6:12 PM (#231721 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay
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It happens to be very helpful if more than one person who was bothered by a bidder or a seller emails Ebay at the asme time. You'll see this user name eliminated for godd.

Randy
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stephent28
Posted 2006-11-14 10:31 PM (#231722 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay



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Unfortunately we all know to be on the lookout for garonemartin. Once he is deleted he will probably come back as another new nuisance but we won't recognize him for a few months or so.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2006-11-14 11:45 PM (#231723 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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Another garonemartin bid:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=019&sspagename=STR...
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Steve
Posted 2006-12-02 3:18 PM (#231724 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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..and another garonemartin bid: Vintage Adamas II
ebayitem# 110062918383
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FlySig
Posted 2006-12-02 4:50 PM (#231725 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay



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I came across a similar kind of bidder a few weeks ago trying to buy an audio recording card for the computer. This guy showed up in numerous auctions and seemed to run up the bid and then bail out as it got close to the historical selling price for those items.

For example, if the usual selling price were about $180, he'd bid up to about $160. I put in a max bid on several items that was a bit shy of the typical selling price. He came along and put in multiple bids under my max, driving it up. Then he'd bail before becoming high bidder.

It's like it was a game to him to see how much he could bid up an item without actually winning it. He was definitely not the seller trying to shill, but it had the same effect.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-02 5:56 PM (#231726 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay



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No, but he might be a seller trying to drive up the market price overall.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-02 6:05 PM (#231727 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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...or purchase an item he knows he could resell at a profit, if he won at his high bid....
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-02 6:51 PM (#231728 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay



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...except that to date, he hasn't actually bought anything...
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-02 7:17 PM (#231729 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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well.... maybe he just really sucks at it. :rolleyes:
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-02 8:40 PM (#231730 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay



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Originally posted by stephent28:
Unfortunately we all know to be on the lookout for garonemartin. Once he is deleted he will probably come back as another new nuisance but we won't recognize him for a few months or so.
Better the Devil we know, than the Devil we don't.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2006-12-02 11:01 PM (#231731 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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I'm thanking God he didn't start bidding at the end of the auction for the UTE and make me pay hundreds more. He did bid on it at the early stages but seemed to drop off after about 3-400$'s. This guy needs to go away, maybe to overstock.com where the rest of the crooks are.
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lanaki
Posted 2006-12-24 2:39 AM (#231732 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230044325706

here's a foreign eBay page showing garonemartin winning the adamas II 12 string back in early november. (that guitar was recently re-sold on eBay). notice that garonemartin has 1 feedback

curious, huh?
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lanaki
Posted 2006-12-24 2:41 AM (#231733 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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http://cgi.ebay.com/ovation-adamas-2-12-string_W0QQitemZ23005580211...
here's the more recent sale of the same guitar.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-24 8:16 AM (#231734 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay



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Interesting that the guitar was sold twice by the same seller, after giving garonemartin a "fast payer" feedback on the first sale.
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Beal
Posted 2006-12-24 8:47 AM (#231735 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay



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smells like old fish
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-12-24 9:26 AM (#231736 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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Why's the guitar selling so cheap? Looks like a nice one to me.

Dave
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Weaser P
Posted 2006-12-24 9:32 AM (#231737 - in reply to #231713)
Subject: Re: garonemartin on Ebay


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Nothing about that entire scenario looks nice to me.
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