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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-04 6:11 PM (#228817 - in reply to #228767)
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More like Jews discussing Zoroastrianism
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-04 6:27 PM (#228818 - in reply to #228767)
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Or Virginians discussing consanguinity.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-04 6:27 PM (#228819 - in reply to #228767)
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huh???
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-04 6:31 PM (#228820 - in reply to #228767)
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Which 'huh?'? Virginian or consanguinity?
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cliff
Posted 2006-12-04 6:34 PM (#228821 - in reply to #228767)
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Consanguinity:

It's the box that must be "checked-off" by both people on a VA marriage license . . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-04 6:35 PM (#228822 - in reply to #228767)
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I jus cull'd my brothah t'ask his betroth'd whud thad meens... an my sistah seeays id'a meean we's relahtive.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-04 6:37 PM (#228823 - in reply to #228767)
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So in VA, if your brother divorces his wife, is she still your cousin?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-04 6:45 PM (#228824 - in reply to #228767)
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'corse she'be, w'ain't no cath'lics
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2006-12-04 7:03 PM (#228825 - in reply to #228767)
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Amusing ,I must say,and very interesting that many( most ) blame the P R department,nice idea`s for esthetics too,a 100.000 dollar Martin can be had,it`s all Abalone ,back to fro,so why not an Ovation,..but it seems to me as if I were n `t able to explain the question right..I will try to do better in another thread...might take a while though,but I do thank You All for your Input and I`m sure that it caused some people who are in a " certain position" to have taken some notes,.. ;)
:cool:
Vic
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-12-05 12:22 AM (#228826 - in reply to #228767)
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It's interesting to see how much the opinion of the "fanatics" may vary from the "uninformed" buyers out there. We feel a certain way, but we all know the quality and value in the USA O's.

I think it's primarily for selfish reasons that most of us would like to see some upper-end Ovation products in our local stores, even though we probably wouldn't buy them. Most of us will just pick out what we want and call our favorite dealer and order it from them, but the ability to walk into a guitar store and pick up a dozen different guitars to try is too good for most of us to pass up.

Let's face it - GC doesn't carry a nice Ovation selection. However, even with what they do have, how many of us here have actually bought one from a GC store? How many of us bought our guitars from online dealers or off ebay? I think that the numbers show why the GC stores don't carry too many Adamas and LX models.
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Waskel
Posted 2006-12-05 12:32 AM (#228827 - in reply to #228767)
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I've bought a Celeb and 2 6778LX's from GC. Course I used Guitar Trader ads to get the price down...
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-12-05 12:35 AM (#228828 - in reply to #228767)
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I've bought 2 Ovations from GC in the last year. Both used and I bought a bunch of other ones before I finally got something from them.
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clrules
Posted 2006-12-05 2:58 AM (#228829 - in reply to #228767)
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It's sad that everybody has switched to the old payola to get people to play their instruments. But I guess that's the reality of it now. The guitar may be crap , but we'll pay off someone to use it so someone else will be disappointed when they get one of their own. I know, I've bought some Gibsons recently and promptly sold them. As far as abandoning the roundback, forget it. It is Ovation, after all. I think the LX series is going in the right direction, but I think they need to go back to the deep bowl, because you get the fullest sound and I think it would compliment the newest top and bracing design. I have some old 70's and early 80's Ovations, and for some reason they play a whole lot better than the new ones I have tried out in the local music stores. I tried many models, and wasn't especially impressed. I was really disappointed in the Legend LX. The neck felt clubby and the action was horrible, it was pretty close to more traditional acoustic instrument factory setups, which wasn't the case when I got mine. It did sound nice, though. I haven't done anything to mine in 30 years except a couple of truss rod adjustments. It seems like the old addage "they don't make them like they used to" applies here. Maybe that's why the interest in new Ovations have been lukewarm. Just my two cents......
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2006-12-05 3:01 AM (#228830 - in reply to #228767)
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Keep in mind, that I know in many cases (I asked) that GC and other Guitar stores DO INDEED get USA Ovations. According to one dealer who I accused of NEVER having any, told me he gets at least one a month, but usually a few each month. They almost never actually make it to the wall because they are immediately sold.

I'm not sure there is a reasonable way around this other than for dealers to order "display only" guitars, but then again... what's the point.
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Steve
Posted 2006-12-05 11:08 AM (#228831 - in reply to #228767)
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Today's new guitar market is saturated it seems, regardless of the model. Boutique guitars are the way to go now. If I were to ever spend big bucks on an instrument again, I'll just have Ovation USA make me one and buy it from alpep...
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wilblee
Posted 2006-12-05 1:54 PM (#228832 - in reply to #228767)
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Reading these posts I feel preety darn blessed by the GC here in Austin. While they don't normally have any Adamii, they do have a good selection of the LX line, including the contour bowl models. They're fairly easy to get to, even the 06 Collectors. They're always real helpful to me and always work with me on the price, especially Doug Steiger in the acoustic room. That, however, is almost certainly due to the fact that I have spent big bucks (to me anyway) in their store. I buy guitars from friends and off eBay, mostly I buy used, but I do buy from my local stores at least 1/2 the time. Otherwise I soon won't have a local store. Besides, now I know Doug and go hear him when he plays at a local establishment (he plays Taylors) and I've met other people and get to do the whole network thing.

If you only use your local stores and don't support 'em, don't be surprised if all you get is used back.
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Hillwalker
Posted 2006-12-05 2:56 PM (#228833 - in reply to #228767)
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I've read all 5 pages so far, and agree with Waskel, Oster and Tup:
1 The Celeb brand needs to be labelled as such; they're not bad guitars (runs for cover...), but they aren't of the same quality as the USA made guitars
2 USA made Ovations are priced under the market.
3 Enjoy this (rare) anomaly in todays world :)
4 Don't lose the bowl; it defines the product: simple

My dream O? AAA sitka or Englemann top, ebony board, abalone inlays and Elite soundholes. Deep bowl too.

Getting there...

HW
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-12-05 8:17 PM (#228834 - in reply to #228767)
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Sounds like you need to look for an 87 Collector's. No abalone inlays, but nice abalone trim around the body.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-12-05 8:19 PM (#228835 - in reply to #228767)
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Mark, go take a look at your 87C. There's not only abalone around the body, but also up and down the neck. And the inlays are done in abalone as well.
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-12-05 10:21 PM (#228836 - in reply to #228767)
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Yup...and Mark, remember barely beating me to that one as well while you're at it. ;)

It's definitely one of the most striking of the Collectors. I put that one with the 5858ASW Limited Elite for overall looks.
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