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rt
Posted 2006-12-05 10:29 PM (#228395)
Subject: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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2077 or 1077 ?
what do people prefer and why?

thanks,

rt
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stephent28
Posted 2006-12-05 10:49 PM (#228396 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour



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Will you primarily be playing acoustic only or plugged in?
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rt
Posted 2006-12-05 11:45 PM (#228397 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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thanks for the response.
mostly plugged in, i do like the idea of a pure acoustic guitar.
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First Alternate
Posted 2006-12-06 5:14 AM (#228398 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour
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I have the contour bowl. It seems to have been designed to fit around beer bellies, but one result is more room for the electronics.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-12-06 10:48 AM (#228399 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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I was never a fan of mids. Personal preference 1-contour, 2-deep, 3-mid/artist, 4-everything else.
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worshipleader
Posted 2006-12-06 10:51 AM (#228400 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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No difference in sound to speak of plugged in, but I love the deep bowls in either form because they generally have a bigger, deeper sound acoustically. For me, the coutour helps keep the guitar from rolling top up when you are playing standing with a strap. Of course, in my case both the guitars and the player have competing bellies :D
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-06 10:58 AM (#228401 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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I gotta say, as a deep bowl fan, a 12 fret w/ Mid-bowl is pretty freaking awesome.
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stephent28
Posted 2006-12-06 10:59 AM (#228402 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour



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TUPPERWARE nailed it for me too....same order (except I could go either way with 1 & 2) same feelings.
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-12-06 11:05 AM (#228403 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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Jeff, isn't that what your custom Adamas is?

I'm no help whatsoever - I like all of them. I don't have the beer belly per se at this time, but do like how the contour feels on my 12-string.

I have to say though, one of the best "bang for the buck" guitars I've ever played was a mid-bowl EliteT with the black finish. It was a real powerhouse. Doesn't compete with the 1718 or 1537 deep non-cutaway for overall tone and volume, but still a great-sounding acoustic guitar in and of itself.

I'd say go with what feels/sounds better to you, but if you still can't decide, go with the contour.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-12-06 11:23 AM (#228404 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
I gotta say, as a deep bowl fan, a 12 fret w/ Mid-bowl is pretty freaking awesome.
Jeff is right, there ARE exceptions. His adamas middepth is one of the nicest adamas guitars I have ever played.

Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-12-06 11:35 AM (#228405 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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For most wood topped Ovations, a deep bowl is preferable to a mid or super shallow bowl guitar, based on tone. And when I say deep bowl, I'm including a contour bowl. A mid depth bowl is a compromise on sound vs. comfort vs. feedback. A super shallow bowl doesn't concern itself with acoustic sound, just comfort and feedback.

The reason Jeff's 12 fret mid depth bowl Adamas works so well is that the mid depth tames some of the booming bass of the U681. To my ears, it's a more balanced sound than the U681, but still maintains the beautiful depth and tone of the U681.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-06 11:44 AM (#228406 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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I think the the bridge placement is critical here. I think there would be a pretty significant difference in this guitar if it was a 14 fret to body.
An inch and a half makes a big difference....
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Steve
Posted 2006-12-06 12:55 PM (#228407 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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The midbowl DS768 I played sounded more deepbowl, as it were...best of both worlds, I guess..the bridge placement makes for all the sustain...
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gh1
Posted 2006-12-06 1:01 PM (#228408 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
An inch and a half makes a big difference....
My ex-wife told me that too.

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gh1
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-06 1:23 PM (#228409 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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I left it danglin' there for someone...
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colt357
Posted 2006-12-06 2:28 PM (#228410 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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You left what danglin"?

:)

Dave
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-12-06 2:46 PM (#228411 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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the participle....
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Chuck (Retired Navy)
Posted 2006-12-06 5:20 PM (#228412 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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Must have left it danglin with the thought he lost earlier. :)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2006-12-06 7:21 PM (#228413 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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I saw it danglin, but didn't want to touch it. Now it's your turn, Jeff.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-06 7:47 PM (#228414 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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Hell, no. I ain't touchin' it. I know where it's been.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-12-06 8:30 PM (#228415 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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You talking length or width?

For me, I prefer the mid bowl. Even tho I only play unplugged, the comfort of the mid is just about right. I don't care much for the contour bowl, I could take it or leave it. When playing the 2006, the top cuts into my ribs. Deep is too, well, deep. Since I play seated and unplugged, shallow bowl is out.

Basically, I think the opinion is: whatever you prefer. Depends on how you play and what you are looking for in sound and comfort. For me the right compromise is the mid bowl.

And yes, the mid bowl 12 fret Adamas is perfect. Too bad I'm the only one who has played mine. If anybody comes to Texas, look me up. I'll bring it to OFC 2007 if we ever find out when that is gonna be. (Blatant shot across the bow. I know you're working on it Al, just had to do it.)
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Damon67
Posted 2006-12-06 9:19 PM (#228416 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour



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My Elite LX (mid has the warmest acoustic tone ever. It does get downed out sometimes when I'm playing with someone strumming on a traditional dread. I imagine the Contour is a bit louder?

I wouldn't mind Contour. Again, it's the beer belly factor.
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edensharvest
Posted 2006-12-07 1:25 AM (#228417 - in reply to #228395)
Subject: Re: mid-depth vs. deep contour


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Contour is a lot louder, fuller. It's still a big bowl, so the beer belly might still fight a bit...

BTW, welcome! More and more from the NW jumping on here. We'll have to do another NW get-together before too long.
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