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Patsbro
Posted 2006-12-14 8:25 PM (#226551)
Subject: Google Patents


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Google has added a utility on Patents. There are several concerning Ovations such as the A/E pickup patent from the early '70s:

http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT3712951&id=dIo0AAAAEBAJ&dq=o...

Maybe somewhat geeky, but interesting.

Patsbro
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Jeff W.
Posted 2006-12-14 8:41 PM (#226552 - in reply to #226551)
Subject: Re: Google Patents


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This is reeeeeally bad news for me... and all those things I thought of first.
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vcnyls
Posted 2006-12-14 11:10 PM (#226553 - in reply to #226551)
Subject: Re: Google Patents


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Location: New York, NY
Man, Google thinks of everything! That's awesome!
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Steve
Posted 2006-12-15 9:13 AM (#226554 - in reply to #226551)
Subject: Re: Google Patents


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So, J. Rickard filed this patent in Dec. 1971 and received it in Jan. 1973. And now all the U.S. guitar manufacturers send him royalties if they use it. Is that how it works?..
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ChatMan
Posted 2006-12-15 11:51 AM (#226555 - in reply to #226551)
Subject: Re: Google Patents


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When you obtain a patent, you get 14 years of protection from the date issuance. That can be renewed once for an additional 14 years and after that it's public domain. The original intent (at least the stated original intent) of the patent concept was to incent individuals to educate others as to how to practice their inventions. I've had a couple of patents issued but none of any commercial significance.
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Steve
Posted 2006-12-15 12:57 PM (#226556 - in reply to #226551)
Subject: Re: Google Patents


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Lets see now.. 28 and 73 is 101, so all the guitar manufacturers are in the clear since 2001.. :) I've thought it might be interesting to study patent/copyright law, especially as it pertains to musical composition, arrangment, and recording.
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-12-15 1:09 PM (#226557 - in reply to #226551)
Subject: Re: Google Patents



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Copyright law is substantially different from patent law. So far only Irving Berlin has managed to outlive his copyrights.

And then there's the tragedy of people like Lennon/McCartney and John Fogerty who signed away their rights or were outright ripped off.
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Steve
Posted 2006-12-15 1:20 PM (#226558 - in reply to #226551)
Subject: Re: Google Patents


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I've heard of the 'public doman' description, but they say in England even the king james bible is copyrighted, so it sounds like maintaining an open-ended copyright would require a massive amount of persistance over the years..
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