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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-12-18 12:04 AM (#226147)
Subject: Broken Truss Rod


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Sad day.

I have been building a kit guitar since March. I am in the final stages. Today I was going to adjust the truss rod to add relief. Turned the wrench about 1/4 turn and the nut snapped off. :(

Since I have already glued the neck and fretboard to the body, how do I replace the truss rod? Do I have to disassemble everything? If so, how do I get the neck off with the least amount of damage to the body? (StewMac 000 kit)

Sad day. :confused:
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colt357
Posted 2006-12-18 12:29 AM (#226148 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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Damn, sorry to hear about that. Wish I knew a solution for you. Hopefully someone here knows. Best of luck.

Dave
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dvd
Posted 2006-12-18 12:52 AM (#226149 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod



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You might try posting over at Kit Guitar Forum .. they seem to do a good job of helping each other through various problems in the process...
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-12-18 1:02 AM (#226150 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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Thanks. I posted over there. Hopefully someone will know how to repair this. I have been working since March on this kit. Now I have a 90% completed really expensive lamp.
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Omaha
Posted 2006-12-18 7:02 AM (#226151 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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I'm sure there's a way to solve this. There is a wealth of information over on Frank Ford's site (frets.com). When you look at some of the repairs he has made, I'm sure there is a way to fix you "lamp".

Good luck.
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-12-18 7:14 AM (#226152 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod



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Now I have a 90% completed really expensive lamp.
It's a major award!!.......Frageeeelay

That's a shame Tom.
Reminds me of the time a friend spent hours and hours on a balsa wood model plane. With as much a sense of pride and accomplishment you can have, he took it out to fly. 20 seconds... 10 straight up and 10 straight down. Nothing left but big toothpics.
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-12-18 7:18 AM (#226153 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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Stewmac makes a special tool for dealing with a broken truss rod. I forget what it's called or exactly how it works but I remember looking at it and thinking it's one of those "why would I need to invest in this" kind of things. Until you need it. Dave
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2006-12-18 7:54 AM (#226154 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod
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Here ya go... seen it in action at Howie's..
truss rod repair kit

pretty nifty...

Glenn
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Tupperware
Posted 2006-12-18 8:13 AM (#226155 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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Yup, that's it. Looks like it allows you to ream out a little around the rod, then re-thread the end of the broken rod and attach a new TR nut. Other than start over with a new neck, I can't think of how else to do it. Dave
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Omaha
Posted 2006-12-18 10:16 AM (#226156 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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And only $230!
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-18 10:56 AM (#226157 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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its a sonofabitch to seperate the fretboard from the neck and dig the tr out and put in a new one. my national has a broken tr....maybe ill buy one of the tr rescue kits from stewmac someday..jason
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Trader Jim
Posted 2006-12-18 12:29 PM (#226158 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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Originally posted by Omaha:
And only $230!
Might be a good idea for one guy to buy it and do a time share/rental policy on it, if there is enough interest. Dats alot o moola for a one time thing!!
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2006-12-18 2:01 PM (#226159 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod
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I nominate Mwoody to staff and maintain the community luthiers guild.. send those confusing tools and parts to him.

Glenn
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-18 2:15 PM (#226160 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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i nominate my self..lol...2 of my resurections are enroute to canada as we speak....jason
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an4340
Posted 2006-12-18 2:28 PM (#226161 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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Or you could buy it, use it, and sell it half price to a fellow OFC member, with the proviso that if he rents it out to another OFC member he charges them half, and gives you the other half. It could be years before you see your money.

Or you could go to your luthier.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-12-18 3:52 PM (#226162 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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Stewmac said I could create an access in the peghead and try to remove it that way. Will probably need one of Woody's famous truss rod covers.
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MWoody
Posted 2006-12-18 3:58 PM (#226163 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod



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No problem Tom!
I have reveneered pegheads as well. Let me know what you need.
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TexasDoc
Posted 2006-12-22 12:22 AM (#226164 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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Snapped off the nut. Drilled a big hole in the peghead. Hammered, yanked, pushed, pulled, oiled, swore, hammered some more.

Finally got the broken rod out. New one slid in much easier. Not much damage, but I'm gonna have to refinish the peghead veneer (Rosewood), and cover the hole with a TRC (thanks Woodster!), and rebuild a new nut.

Thanks to all for your encouragement. I was crestfallen last week when this happened thinking the last 9 months were down the drain.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-22 12:38 AM (#226165 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod


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wtg tom...i knew you could do it...jason
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Slipkid
Posted 2006-12-22 7:13 AM (#226166 - in reply to #226147)
Subject: Re: Broken Truss Rod



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There's not much that a little sweat & cussin' can't fix.
Good job Tom!!
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