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seesquare
Posted 2006-12-24 10:36 AM (#225331 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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I've determined my 1615 is an "ugly duckling". It has a nasty neck repair, the binding is pulling off both sides of the waist (opposite of my personal experience), fissures in the top, mismatched tuner buttons, and various bruises & contusions. However, it is still tuned to pitch, and holds its tuning. Electronics work, too!
Put a light set (.009-.046) on it, just-in-case.
Took Lanaki's advice & printed off "Wreck". With my left-hand dominance (read, limited right-hand technique), I can manage a passable rendition. Now, learning all them lyrics will take a LOT more repetition, and probably, medication.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-24 11:28 AM (#225332 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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the problme ive got chris, is the left hand cant keep up with the right hands picking..lol...jason
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-24 2:57 PM (#225333 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?



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I have that right-hand problem too. I have no rhythm. My non-guitar friends have the mistaken idea the left-hand is the hard part. (and it is, but...) But I have trouble getting some of the strum/pick patterns down.
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seesquare
Posted 2006-12-24 3:43 PM (#225334 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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I spend about 75% of my practice time on my right hand. Perhaps why I appreciate a 12'er- only so much fingerpicking you can do- unless you're gifted like Leo Kottke.
Good for building left-hand strength & stamina, though.
Some of Dylan's stuff sounds OK, and Hotel California, well, that's a natural- long & LOUD!! One of the classic chord progressions of all time.
Anyrate, whatever tuning you choose, it just takes time. A 12 is a different critter, altogether.
I do an interesting drill with playing the 1615, or 1115 for awhile, then switch to Shine, the JW, with similar wide neck & 12 frets. I can hear different overtones & helps with the rhythm & cadence.
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bvince
Posted 2006-12-24 3:58 PM (#225335 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?



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I recall someone mentioning a 12 string as an "accessory guitar". I'll have to agree that one can do without a 12, but I personally find it an absolute necessity at times. I have been short a second guitar player in our worship band for the last three weeks, and that 12-string comes very close to filling the void, that is IF it is a deep-bowl Ovation (:
I feel so blessed to have come across this beautiful Custom Legend. I haven't found another 12-string that even comes close to playing and sounding so good. (and I've tried plenty) I only wish I could some day try an old Adamas 12. I've never tried the alternate tunings, but I hope to some day when I get the time.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-24 4:39 PM (#225336 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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i xan keep perfect time strumming but since my accident a few years back my chord changes have got verry slow. so thats a challange but ive been known to overcome most...i love playing my 12 but by far my most played critter is still the folklore...jason
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-24 9:01 PM (#225337 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?



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I'm having fun with my Christmas Present to self. The action is nice, but I have to get used to the wider neck. And the High/thin G seems so light, I have to Look! (Do I got it?) Also some of the songs in my repetoire do sound crappy on a 12. But a bunch sound like a symphony.
So I guess I oughta switch to my other Christmas Present to self... the 1621-4.
[What's the "4" for?]
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cliff
Posted 2006-12-24 9:23 PM (#225338 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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Color-(Natural).
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-24 9:25 PM (#225339 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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my favorite finish color...jason
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stzomah
Posted 2006-12-24 9:25 PM (#225340 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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The -4 is the color code. Yours should be a natural color (light wood). I just bought my 6751-4 from a friend. It is also a 12 string. I am enjoying songs like "Wish You Were Here" and "Mr. Tamborine Man". I always wanted a 12 string and this is a beauty, 2 years old. just hummmmmsss.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-24 9:26 PM (#225341 - in reply to #225306)
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Oh? Thanx!
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-24 9:31 PM (#225342 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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#4 finish on 1567-4 legend ssb
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-24 10:03 PM (#225343 - in reply to #225306)
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Yeah, that's the color my 1621-4 is. The 4861 is lighter.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-24 10:14 PM (#225344 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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that one is 23-24 yrs old. it now resides with oster in canada....best sounding ssb ive ever played or owned...jason
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Oster
Posted 2006-12-25 3:56 PM (#225345 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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Originally posted by johnny cash 83:
that one is 23-24 yrs old. it now resides with oster in canada....best sounding ssb ive ever played or owned...jason
Cheers and Merry Christmas Jason! I haven't got it yet but apparently it is on my side of the border so maybe this week. :cool:
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stzomah
Posted 2006-12-25 4:00 PM (#225346 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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The one in the picture is a lot darker than my newer 6751 12 string. I guess the "natural" depends on the wood - duh. Some are darker than others. Anyway, I am also a big fan of the natural color. I have two sunbursts (one cherry and the other tobacco). The natural color is my favorite.
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Jason_S
Posted 2006-12-25 4:00 PM (#225347 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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merry christmas owen. i just looked the number up this morning and seen its in country now. you should have it this week....jason
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-27 11:54 PM (#225348 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?



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Okay, I've had this 12 string for six days... I take it outta the case, and the High G string is broken!! It wasn't broke when I put it away!? I have not gotten extra strings in the mail yet, and I ain't walking to the store for one string. So I put a regular G string that I had in the sixth slot, and I tuned it to regular G. Sounds okay, but even I can hear the difference. (And I got a 79 on the tone-deaf test!) So I gotten tuned like I mentioned before, for people who break their hi-G too much.
It broke up at the head, right on the peg. Did the folks who strung it screw-up?
Has this happened to anyone? [the string breaking in the case]
All comments and suggestions gracefully accepted.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2006-12-28 12:03 AM (#225349 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?


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I don't know what to tell you. Strings don't break on Ovations.....
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2006-12-28 12:19 AM (#225350 - in reply to #225306)
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Yeah,yeah... Just twist the knife alittle...
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fillhixx
Posted 2006-12-28 12:47 AM (#225351 - in reply to #225306)
Subject: Re: 12-String Tuning?



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Interesting challenge. Send me the guitar, I'll put a new set on (at my expense) an give you my opinion as soon as I have one.

But I still have The Police cranked and my friends are leaving for my prefered "home town" of Puerto Vallarta tomorrow and I p'd off and jealous....so don't trust anything I say.
(I warned the wife, but she didn't listen 30 years ago....)
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