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cliff
Posted 2002-04-01 4:04 PM (#223313)
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A while ago, I had mentioned in a post about my Adamas protype # 20. A couple of guys had requested some pics. I was FINALLY able to get some together, so here they are.

Many THANX!! to Elias (especially for the posting "help") and to Sam for the interest.

- c.

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Gary(Uk)
Posted 2002-04-01 5:12 PM (#223314 - in reply to #223313)
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That is one beautiful guitar! Nuff said.
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JT3
Posted 2002-04-01 6:24 PM (#223315 - in reply to #223313)
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Now thats TRUE craftsmanship!!! WOW!!!
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Beal
Posted 2002-04-01 6:46 PM (#223316 - in reply to #223313)
Subject: Re: #20



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Sure is nice, an 1187-8
What is the serial number and the dash number?
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alpep
Posted 2002-04-01 7:03 PM (#223317 - in reply to #223313)
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YUMMY now come over here and clean the drool off of my keyboard......
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musicamex
Posted 2002-04-01 7:03 PM (#223318 - in reply to #223313)
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a statement of old world craftsmanship meeting new world technology. and it works perfectly.

a guitar that beautiful deserves a winter on the mexican riviera. send it to hotel musicamex and i'll make sure it has a good time.
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Beal
Posted 2002-04-01 7:24 PM (#223319 - in reply to #223313)
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Is there a lable in the bowl? It would be model number 1187-8 and the s/n would be xx-xx. Are you sure that's not a 26? I would think it could be 26-88 or something like that. 88 is the fundamental frequency of the body. The ones in the 80's or low 90's sound a bit bassyer ( is that a word?) Does it have the original case and case cover? We sprayed the case with a mist of the body color and some of the sparkles too.
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samova
Posted 2002-04-01 9:11 PM (#223320 - in reply to #223313)
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Bill its possible that it could also be a 1189,wideneck.

I just checked both of my early adamases and there is no serial number written under the walnut trus cover?? Without a label it would be impossible to trace the correct serial number.Maybe it is written on the bracing like most other adamases..According to ovation the slotted headstock adamas did not appear until serial number 26 and ended at 62...
Any way you look at it ,it is definatelly an early adamas slotted headstock with the early inlays,carved heel,gold binding..
The only mistery here is the exact serial number?[ April 01, 2002: Message edited by: samova ]

[ April 01, 2002: Message edited by: samova ]
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-04-01 11:24 PM (#223321 - in reply to #223313)
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An extemely beautiful guitar. I hope that it gets played on a regular basis!
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JT3
Posted 2002-04-01 11:32 PM (#223322 - in reply to #223313)
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Speaking of high quality vintage Ovation Adamas.
This guy on ebay has a "one of a kind"... take a
look. I am amazed at these guitars!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=855047290
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Nils
Posted 2002-04-02 1:06 AM (#223323 - in reply to #223313)
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Wow, those guitars are really beautiful! Works of art on several levels. I sure would like to get my mitts on one of 'em for a few hours. There's no way I could afford to actually buy one. With the high opening bid on the one on ebay I wonder if it will sell? I seem to do better selling if I set a really low opening bid on things to get things rolling. At any rate I'm glad you posted lots of pix, it was fun to look at. Thanks for the eye candy!
Nils

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alpep
Posted 2002-04-02 6:10 AM (#223324 - in reply to #223313)
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high opening bid???? that is a bargain at that price. if yo are the only bidder or snipe it you got a killer deal. save your paper route money I think that guitar would be one to lust over.
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Woz
Posted 2002-04-02 7:53 AM (#223325 - in reply to #223313)
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I have an answer for my Ovation "addiction"...
As my bride of 27yr. would ask why do you...
My answer.
It makes me smile.
Thanks for the look.
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Nils
Posted 2002-04-02 8:42 AM (#223326 - in reply to #223313)
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Don't get me wrong alpep, I'm sure $1,850 is a bargain for that guitar, but if it was me, I'd have started the bidding at $100 with maybe an $1,850 reserve.
Nils
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Beal
Posted 2002-04-02 9:44 AM (#223327 - in reply to #223313)
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That brown one on Ebay is a nice piece, the only one we did that color. The first one with a brown bowl. It was on there as couple of weeks ago and didn't hit the reserve. He must be taking a second look at things.
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cliff
Posted 2002-04-02 11:52 AM (#223328 - in reply to #223313)
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"a guitar that beautiful deserves a winter on the mexican riviera. send it to hotel musicamex and i'll make sure it has a good time."


-Sure, I'll send it down to ya'!
The only thing is that it's permanently attached, so you'd be getting me in tow (and I LOVE TEQUILA!!) along with it.

Know any "Buffett" tunes?
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elias
Posted 2002-04-02 12:55 PM (#223329 - in reply to #223313)
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Will you allow me to post my Adamas #0031-88 (1687-8) as well?
After all, they are sisters!
In the pic you can see who else (besides lucky us) used to own and play the legendary slot-head Adamas: Marcel Dadi, old Charlie, Glen Campbell, Nancy Wilson, Neil Diamond, and other, not included here.
Thanks!

;)
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elias
Posted 2002-04-02 1:09 PM (#223330 - in reply to #223313)
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Bill,
the Adamas #0031-88 comes with its original tan OHSC, which is heavily glittered too, as well as the leather-like tan Ovation case-cover. As you mentioned the fundamental frequency of the body is "88" and the Adamas #0031-88 is indeed very bassy!
The label inside reads "model 1687-8, serial No. 0031-88, 4-21-1976", and it is signed by Charles Kaman.
I too I checked and there is no serial number "31" written under the walnut truss rod cover.
Bill, I would love to see pictures of your slothead Adamas now. It's only you left.....
Common! post some pics!
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elias
Posted 2002-04-02 1:11 PM (#223331 - in reply to #223313)
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Originally posted by elias:
Bill,
the Adamas #0031-88 comes with its original tan OHSC, which is heavily glittered too, as well as the leather-like tan Ovation case-cover. As you mentioned the fundamental frequency of the body is "88" and the Adamas #0031-88 is indeed very bassy!
The label inside reads "model 1687-8, serial No. 0031-88, 4-21-1976", and it is signed by Charles Kaman.
I too have checked and there is no serial number "31" written under the walnut truss rod cover.
Bill, I would love to see pictures of your slothead Adamas now. It's only you left.....
Common! post some pics!
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elias
Posted 2002-04-02 1:49 PM (#223332 - in reply to #223313)
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Speeking of the Adamas #20, I believe that Cliff's Adamas is a later "complete" Adamas" post-26-27 serial number.
Please take a look of Marcel Dadi's Adamases, with slotted-headstock. The one in the pic indicated, may be the early prototype (serial #19, 20, or 21) that Dadi owned.
What do you think Bill?
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elias
Posted 2002-04-02 2:10 PM (#223333 - in reply to #223313)
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Here are some more pics of Marcel Dadi's Adamas collection!
You can see the early prototype (#19, 20, or 21?) along with other later complete slotted-headstock non-cutaway (the blue 1687-8, and a beige one) as well as later slotted-headstock cutaway Adamas : the legendary orange cutaway and the beige cutaway with slotted headstocks!
Enjoy the pics!
;)
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Beal
Posted 2002-04-02 4:40 PM (#223334 - in reply to #223313)
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When I figure out how to work the camera etc I'll post the pics. The cutaway slotheads for marcel were made well after the first run. We made alot of guitars for him. Whatever happened to his collection, does anyone know?
I think you're right that 19' 20 and 21 were the bearclaw rosette ones. Marcel had one of those too.
I checked mine and there is no s/n under the rod cover.
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Woz
Posted 2002-04-02 4:41 PM (#223335 - in reply to #223313)
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I just went looking at my dream "brown one" on ebay and it's gone. $2,000.oo took it. Nice guitar nice price. He who hesitates...
That's me.
Woz
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alpep
Posted 2002-04-02 5:19 PM (#223336 - in reply to #223313)
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damn I did not see the buy it now price I was outside all day restacking lumber I bought to build an addition to my house the contractor called yesterday we are making plans on friday and in a couple of months he should be here banging nails.....more room for more gear.
LOL actually my dream studio and a garage for my 68 pontiac catalina convertible. another project to work on....

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musicamex
Posted 2002-04-02 6:14 PM (#223337 - in reply to #223313)
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ok--------i give up. even though i haven't even played one yet i have primed my new adamas piggy bank, and will feed it regularly till it weighs enough to buy one. this stuff is worse than penthouse forum for making a guy want it bad!

and cliff, it's hard not to sing a little jimmy buffet with op to 70 sailboats anchored in front of our village, so grab that adamas and come down next season (this one comes to an end around may 1 with the HEAT) and i'll be sure it is you both are under the spotight.
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