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Bradley
Posted 2002-04-06 6:58 PM (#223197)
Subject: Elite 1537


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I picked up an Elite 1537 off of E-Bay. It arrived today. I knew this was a good guitar, but I didn't realize just how good until it arrived today. What beautiful workmanship.

I watched this guitar go through E-Bay 3 times with a buy-it-now price of $549. I finally couldn't resist when they included free shipping. I couldn't believe no one wanted a beautiful.

I've seen the 1537 called a wooden Adamas; is that really what it was meant to be? It is very nice.

Back to strumming, cya later.

:D Bradley :D
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-04-06 7:35 PM (#223198 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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I've been playing a 1537 Elite for the last 9 years and as far as I'm concerned, it's IT for me.
I saw your guitar on ebay. You got a good deal. The seller didn't really know what he had and could have gotten a lot more for your guitar. If I had been selling it, I would have pointed out that it was made the first year of the Elite production (probably in 1983), that it has AAA spruce on the face, a black walnut fingerboard, and real wood binding around the body. It was the first wood topped Ovation to use the Adamas technology. Glen Campbell got the first prototype and some guy with the nickname cwk2 here on this message board has the second.

You have one hell of a guitar. I almost sent the seller an email telling him how to sell his guitar (hey, the world would be a better place if everybody listened to me), but I'm glad I didn't and that the guitar went to somebody who would appreciate and play it.

[ April 06, 2002: Message edited by: moodypi ]
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elias
Posted 2002-04-06 7:40 PM (#223199 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537
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Hi guys,
you bet the seller DID NOT know what he was selling. I am selling mine currently for $950, and is a hell of a guitar.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-04-06 7:43 PM (#223200 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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Elias: Why you selling your Elite?
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elias
Posted 2002-04-06 7:49 PM (#223201 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537
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I am selling most of my collection.
I want to keep what is absolutely necessary for me. Nothing more or less.
And this is the Adamas #31, after all, I may keep my Martin D-42, and later buy a Goodall. Not sure though. My #31 Adamas and the Martin D-42 willdo the job.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-04-06 7:52 PM (#223202 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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You are probably right. I can just never get myself to sell a guitar.
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elias
Posted 2002-04-06 7:58 PM (#223203 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537
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You know,....it's how one feels about it.
6 months ago, or less I guess, I was completely crazy about my guitar collection. Not to hear about selling or giving away.But the fact is that most of the time the guitars sit in the closet. No time to rotate them even. I do not need them all. I thought it over, and decided to keep 2-3, what makes me really happy, and what I need the most.I really enjoy the Elite 1537, it is a great guitar, I know it already. Now it's time for someone else to find it out.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-04-06 8:04 PM (#223204 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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I guess for once, I feel lucky not to have too many guitars. I've got about 6 guitars scattered around the house on stands. I play them all, not everyday, but they do all get played. If I had more, that probably wouldn't be the case. Oddly enough, I've got small kids and a dog, and all are respectful of the guitars.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2002-04-06 8:32 PM (#223205 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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I'd comment on TOO MANY guitars, but pictures speak louder than words

Click Here
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Bradley
Posted 2002-04-06 8:37 PM (#223206 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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I talked to the seller today on the phone. They said that I got a great guitar. It was a music store in Nashville.

I like it so much that I'm not even going to bid on that slotted blue Adamas that's on E-Bay right now, no reserve and only up to $695 right now. But with 2 days to go it should go higher.

Now I have to figure out which guitar I'm going to sell to help pay for this one (I promised my wife one guitar would go, that's why I can still sleep indoors tonight instead of in the dog house). Either my J-200 or my Custom Elite with the cracked top.

Bradley
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-04-06 10:22 PM (#223207 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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I saw that Adamas on ebay. Somebody really played with the bridge on it. Did you notice it has bridge pins? That guitar should be sent back to Ovation to be straightened out.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-04-06 10:25 PM (#223208 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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Mr. Ovation, that is one helluva collection. Did you have much trouble putting the Deacon necks on the Vipers? I have been told that they are two different scale lengths and the bridge would have to be repositioned. I'd love to put a Deacon 6 string neck on my Viper (like #26), but have no idea how to get the neck or adjust it properly.
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alpep
Posted 2002-04-07 3:04 AM (#223209 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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Miles
looking at your pics is like a walk down memory lane for me .....or would that be deja vu

Where is a slotted headstock ADAmas on e bay?? I did not see this one. I saw an adamas I but not a slot headstock and it said the bridge was cracked I did not see any screws help me out here....


Elias....you'll be sorrrrrrrrryyyyyy

[ April 07, 2002: Message edited by: alpep ]
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2002-04-07 5:10 AM (#223210 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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Moodypi.... "Did you have much trouble putting the Deacon necks on the Vipers? " Don't know what you mean. They are all stock condition, no Deacon necks on Vipers, unless those are the necks they used???
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2002-04-07 8:30 AM (#223211 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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Miles, you obviously have way too much time & way too much money. That's one hell of a collection. If you need someone to give them that played-in feel ship 'em over, I'm your man. The Viper variants are especially cool, as are the single pick-up basses. pic 0029 appears to be UK11 with a conventional wood body, is that correct?

The Adamas on ebay wasn't a slothead & the bridge is a pig's breakfast, bridge pins? sacrilige!!!!
There's a blue cutaway with holes on the bass-side only that looks like a nice guitar.

Paul
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elias
Posted 2002-04-07 9:30 AM (#223212 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537
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Hi guys:

Attention!

The blue Adamas in ebay IS NOT A SLOTTED HEADSTOCK!

The guitar got some serious issues: The bridge is cracked, and holes were drilled in the bridge and through the graphite top in order to install Martin-lile pins that hold the strings!

It's a mess. Ideally one should send it back to Ovation to remove the bridge and replace it!

Al, thanks for the tip, I know exactly what you mean, but it's over.
The #31 and the Martin D-42 are enough, I know what I am talking about.
:p
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Bradley
Posted 2002-04-07 10:44 AM (#223213 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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You're right of course, it's not slotted. My mistake.

Oh well, back to playing with my new baby.

Bradley
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musicamex
Posted 2002-04-07 11:42 AM (#223214 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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to the "MILES MUSEUM OF MODERN MUSICAL MARVELS"

well, started to down load your guitar collection and decided to go have breakfast. it was still downloading when i got back!!!

if you had a description to go with each instrument i would have copied them to a zip disc. good reference tool. i can only admire most of them but could only guess the details. i am breathless and my computer is out of memory! don't forget, the musicamex tropical guitar spa has family group rates. i guess we would have to charter a whole plane for your group.
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Beal
Posted 2002-04-07 11:44 AM (#223215 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537



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The pins as you all know, aren't original. Depending on what they put underneath for a bridge plate it could be an interesting guitar if it's cheap enough. You'll want to give it a real good look before buying.
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musicamex
Posted 2002-04-07 2:27 PM (#223216 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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bill, the only one i've ever had the bridge off of was my 76 balladeer. it had the bridge machine screws outboard on the bridge. the center of the bridge had lifted about 1/8" between the screws. they were aluminum 6-32 or 8-32 and both snapped off when i tried to loosen them. (gotta watch us old blacksmiths around anything under a 3/8 grade 8 cat bolt). the machine screws had trimmed aluminum washers under the nuts. since this was a $150 guitar (with an almost mint case) and had a few cracks i just wanted it to be good enough for beach and party playing. i noticed the later model bridge screws were closer to the center, so i drilled a third hole in the middle of the two others and made a washer from .040 stainless, and used it with a flathead #6-32 ss machine screw. i even left it ready for a mots or shell plug i'll find in amer-rica this summer. would i have been better off using aluminum?

the lessons i learned were worth more than what i paid and i have a good solid guitar that works great and sounds as good as anything else it is playing alongside off stage, and GREAT plugged in. i think it will also become my regular choice for open mic night as lots of the tourists that play don't have guitars with them and a few never should have them in the first place. ("cool! i've always heard about these ovulations but never tried one"). i just tell em this belonged to uncle glen so be careful!
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Gary(Uk)
Posted 2002-04-07 6:32 PM (#223217 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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Just goes to show how handy and informative this site just really is.
I for one, would have said about that Ebay auction Adamas, that it was a bargain, and worth snapping up, i would have NEVER spotted the deliberate mistake on those string pins!
Just makes me think, who was the dork who did that? Deserves shooting :rolleyes:
Probabaly did it to save $ by not sending it to Ovation service dept.
Out with the hand drill meeeaarrrrr... i can imagine the sound of that drill bit, tearing through wood and fibre :eek:
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alpep
Posted 2002-04-07 7:07 PM (#223218 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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GAry
I wonder if he drilled through any braces on the top..... I hope someone warns the high bidder.....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2002-04-07 7:51 PM (#223219 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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Mr. Ovation: I've never seen a Viper electric with a neck that appears to be from a Deacon (specificially photos 20, 54, and 87). The only one I've seen close to this is a guitar that my friend put together himself, having the left handed Viper body built and putting a Deacon 12 neck and bridge on it). I was never aware that Ovation ever put this configuration together. I thought that all Vipers had the plain neck. If I'm wrong (hey, it's something I'm used to), I'd love to hear the story behind these guitars.

If anybody out there has a Deacon 6 string neck they'd like to sell, please let me know.
Paul
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Woz
Posted 2002-04-07 11:08 PM (#223220 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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All I can say is thanks. I was the high bidder on the ebay guitar in question. I did ask all the right questions... I did not see the "repair". I just sent a note to the seller that I'm pulling my bid. Lets see did I ever hear you get what you pay for...
This is the "Ultimate Bulletin Board".
Woz.
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alpep
Posted 2002-04-08 7:21 AM (#223221 - in reply to #223197)
Subject: Re: Elite 1537


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Woz
then as they say in the old superhero cartoons "our work is done here..."
I find it fascinating how even some misinformation was posted hear about the guitar. If it was a slot head I think I would have bought it the day it was up there.
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