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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | There was (still is) a lot of talk about the Adamas Q since 1997 (even earlier ).
I've read a lot about its specs, construction, electronics. I 've never seen one, I've never played one, neither.
Has anyone play-tested this babe?
How about you Al? Have you seen it? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | It's a wonderful guitar. Weighing in a 4 pounds and full acoustic "Play it Straight" the only wood was the bridge, braces and f/b. big full balanced sound. It sounded, get this, VERY woody.
Hopefully it will come to market. |
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Location: NJ | I have seen it. I have played it. I hope when they relase it to the masses it has electronics. very impressive instrument. |
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Location: NJ | I've only seen pics of it (years ago) and it looked impressive.
Kinda like Ovation meets RainSong.
What's the deal w/these?
Were they/are they in production?
Custom shop??
"Limited" production??
$?$?$?$?$?$?$?$?
I remember seeing 'em on O's webpage years ago, but no more. Where'd dey go? |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | O.K. here is the question now:
How the sound of the Adamas Q (woody sound?!) compares to the sound of the early slot-head Adamas?
Bill, you have a slot-head Adamas, and since you have played the Adamas Q you should be able somehow to compare. Please tell me.
Al, how about the unamplified sound?
Sam was telling me that he did not like it, when he had visited the factory a few years ago.
Well? Is it bassy? how is the separation, sustain, presence, balance, volume, etc.
As compared to let say the slot-head, or later Adamases, SMT, or CVT.
Does it sound better than SMTs and CVTs.
I am talking always unplugged! |
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Location: NJ | I have not played a slot head adamas for any extensive length of time nor have I owned one so I do not feel I can make a valid comparision.
cliff they were presented at the Namm show and released but only maybe 10 then they were called back and perhaps destroyed. These guitars did not have electronics and I think listed for around 5K. |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | Al,
how about when compared to SMTs, CVTs, or other earlier Adamases?
Again: how is the separation, sustain, presence, balance, volume, tonal characteristics, overtones? etc.
Does it sound better than SMTs and CVTs ( I hope so), or other Ovations....
I am talking unplugged. |
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Location: NJ | better is a relative term. I prefer to use the term different. |
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Location: NJ | Destroyed!!!??????
Porque? |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | You don't have a clue don't you Al?
...and life goes on... |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | How about you Bill?
Besides woody, can you give me some more info?
When did you have the chance to play it? Were you involved in its design, production or else?
How it compares to your slot-head? |
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Location: SoCal | The closest I've ever come to a Q is a picture in the catalog. But I know that Glen Campbell played one for a while. According to a member of his band, he had problems with amplification and thought that the sound of it was "brittle". He now plays a new Viper on stage. |
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Location: NJ | elias let this serve as you second warning in reference to personal attacks and this message board.
I answered your question. I am sorry it was not to YOUR satisfaction. If I had more conclusive infromation to offer I would. |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | Glen Campbell played an Adamas Q???????????
Are you sure about that????
Sounds Strange!!!!!!
Anyhow, the very last time I saw him was a few weeks ago in CNN (Larry King's show Sunday) and he played a Taylor cutaway sorta 714ce or 814ce.
Great performer!
Any guitar in his hands sounds better! |
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Location: SoCal | Yup, positive. Ken Skaggs plays rythym (sp?) guitar in his band and told me. As to the Taylor he played on Larry King, per Ken, it was a rental. Ken plays Taylors and loves them. I keep working on him to see the error of his ways.
And I agree. Like Chet Atkins, or Jerry Reed or Marcel Dadi, or any number of other great players, any guitar that Glen picks up is going to sound good in his hands. |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | Hey thanks Al!
Much obliged!
But...you keep talking about personal attacks, ...but frankly I don't understand what you mean!
In fact I now do not have a clue!
What is this psychosis with the personal attacks???
Simmer down Al. Take it easy buddy. |
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Location: Scotland | I can confirm that GC did indeed play a Q, when I saw him in concert in the UK a couple of years ago. I have to say I was not impressed with the sound, but the sound-crew seemed pretty untogether that night so it could have been down to them, rather than any failings in the guitar. He also played a Hamer 12-string & a Fender Strat incidentally. He made a big thing in the UK press about being clean & sober, but strangely appeared to be shit-faced when he came on for the second set, the fact that he didn't touch a guitar for the duration of the second half kinda confirmed it for me.
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Location: SoCal | I don't want to belabor this, but ol' Glen has been clean and sober for about 16 years. He might have been sick that night, but I strongly doubt that he was under the influence. |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | I am pretty impressed that GC used an Adamas Q on stage! Amazing!
With regard to drinking, in King's show in CNN they had a long discussion and it seemed to me that GC is sober already. He openly admitted the "problem", he answered all questions, he was very confident...
but you never know I guess.
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I saw Q 7 just before I left. Sound was big and good, full, good ring, blows a slot head away and a slot head will usually blow away a SMT, QVC, CPR, CSX and all the rest of the letters. I might add that many of the Adamas 1(I know I shouldn't use the number)are better than some of the slotheads, like #220 and #3000
I understand from a reliable source that there will be electronics, but just a circuit board and battery (probably some kind on adjustments I'd think too) I've been assured they won't add much weight. Didn't know Glen had one.
Most of the first ones destroyed themselves, the necks kept pulling up, high action and no Trod to adjust. |
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Location: Atlanta,Ga. | I had the good fortune to play two adamas Q's at the factory a few years ago.They were prototypes and as far as i could tell they were complete,non electric guitars..My first impression before playing the guitar is how light it was.Extremely light..The guitar was interesting with the weave in the top,neck and bowl..It almost seemed toy like rather than a guitar.I dont know what gave me that impression.Maybe the light weight,maybe the weave in the body ,top and bowl..Well, that was first impression so i did not have a lot of time to absorb the instrument fully,just first impression...I then played the two Q,s and felt that the guitar was very,very bright..I cant say that i really liked the sound but again it was a prototype and maybe they were still working on the guitars? Also i had nothing else to compare it to.It just felt very bright and reminded me of some Alvarez Yairi's that i have played in the past that were weak on the lows and very bright on the highs....Overall im sure the Q would have a place in the market and should compete well with Rainsong..In fact it may convince some taylor,Larrivee guys to buy one..So, in my view i will hold judgement on these guitars until they hit the market(Who knows when?)and play them again and also see what price range they are in.I think the original Q's were to be offered at around $6900.00 or at least thats what the price sheet had them at... |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA 19107 | Thanks for the input guys!
That was very helpful, and informative!
I am anxious to see these babes in the market soon! :)
Yet Ovation should lower the list price if they really want to compete with Rainsong I guess. $6K for the Q is a lot , as compared to $1,500 for a Rainsong. |
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Location: NJ | rainsong is absolutely positively no competition for Ovation in any stretch of the imagination |
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Location: NJ | except that RainSong has a far better marketing department |
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Location: NJ | all you have to do is play one....then you know |
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