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Norseman1
Posted 2002-09-24 10:39 AM (#217875)
Subject: Makes no sense to me!


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Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az.
I have met several people whom all say the same silly (but true)comment. Basically it's that Ovations are great,and actually preferred for recording, but they wouldn't use one on stage. That is Ludicrous!!! If it is preferred for recording (in which I would think quality sound/tone is paramount), why in the world WOULDN'T you use it on stage?! The whole bowl being awkward argument doesn't float.

Lot of foolish musicians out there I guess!

Norse(confused, but not for the first nor last time)man1
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snowlock
Posted 2002-09-24 12:13 PM (#217876 - in reply to #217875)
Subject: Re: Makes no sense to me!



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Location: Pennsylvania
So I'm an odd one, but I love the shape. I find it much more comfortable that the hard corner angle of a flatback (sitting down with flatbacks leave marks and sore spots on my chest).
I have never had trouble keeping it upright or having it slide. I think it's partially a posture thing...
Standing up, I love the angle the guitar
sits at, and feel that I can get a better reach and better playing out of it standing than standing using a flatback.
I just feel I can get much better angle on and over the guitar, rather than the big reach over the squareness of flatbacks.

[ September 25, 2002: Message edited by: snowlock ]
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Adamas II
Posted 2002-09-24 1:56 PM (#217877 - in reply to #217875)
Subject: Re: Makes no sense to me!


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Location: Knoxville, TN
The main reason I love Ovations IS for stage use. I have never had a problem getting a quick, usable setting every time I've plugged in. That covers approximately 20 years off and on.
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Bailey
Posted 2002-09-25 12:38 AM (#217878 - in reply to #217875)
Subject: Re: Makes no sense to me!


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I guess my response to that would be "What do you use on stage?" to get some insight into what kind of dumbos I'm dealing with. Then I might remark that I would never appear in public with that kind of toys since I've learned how real guitars sound and play. Then again, I might be polite and ask if they're going to get a good guitar when they start playing for money.
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2002-09-25 1:45 AM (#217879 - in reply to #217875)
Subject: Re: Makes no sense to me!



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I personally hate playing flat-back guitars, they are uncomfortable to me and frankly bug the shit out of me when I lower myself to picking one up (tee hee).
I guess I'm spoiled, but I find it quite easy to play my deep bowl guitar sitting or standing.
The super-shallow ones are a non-issue, they are super comfortable.
As far as sliding around, the little rubber no-slide thingee came off of my '68 Deluxe Ballladeer a while back (took it twenty eight years to come off though). The guitar has the glossy (for lack of a better word) bowl and I still don't find it to be a problem.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2002-09-25 11:04 PM (#217880 - in reply to #217875)
Subject: Re: Makes no sense to me!


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Posts: 7236

Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
There are two tips I've picked up over the years that I find very helpful. There may be more, but these two I find especially relevant because I am reminded of them often.

One slightly off the topic is that scnenario where you've tuned your guitar, but are playing with some other folks and you keep "sounding" out of tune... For me anyway, I have to tell myself to RELAX and stop squeezing the neck so tight and actually pulling the strings sharp. They are supposed to touch the frets, not wrap around them.

The other tip... actually on topic is the scenario of "Those Ovation guitars are hard to hold, they slip off my leg"... Well stop hugging it like your long lost cat. Simple physics.. If you sqeeze the top, the bottom is going to kick out. There is no reason your arm should more than touch the top of the guitar. I would like to see what these folks would do with a Steinberger stick that has no body to hug. :)

In reading over this post... there are a lot of subliminal messages.. :( I have issues appearently. :rolleyes:

:cool:
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PluggdN
Posted 2002-09-25 11:26 PM (#217881 - in reply to #217875)
Subject: Re: Makes no sense to me!


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Location: Central Texas
Don't worry Miles, there are people who can help you. :)

In all my years of playing on stage, (which I don't really do anymore) the only thing I ever even considered playing was an Ovation. Since my guitar player worked in a music store, I had opportunities to choose other Ac/El axes if I wanted just for a night during my tenure with that band. The thought never even crossed my mind. Now I grant you, the real musicians in my group didn't let me play much, but when they did, there was never any other choice.

Whenever I successfully lobbied for the opportunity to play a part in the studio, I was adamant that I use my Balladeer. I've heard all the arguments from bandmates, producers and engineers, but in my mind, the tone of my Balladeer is what I wanted. Its what I wrote the part on and its what I want it to sound like when folks hear it. Deal with it.
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Beal
Posted 2002-09-26 7:45 PM (#217882 - in reply to #217875)
Subject: Re: Makes no sense to me!



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So these guys will use it in the studio but wouldn't want to be seen in public with one. Reminds me of the story about what a moped and a fat woman have in common. Both fun to ride but you don't want your friends to catch you doing either one.
I think it's called vanity? How they look onstage is important, evidently more so than how they sound. Music is visual, right????
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PluggdN
Posted 2002-09-26 8:09 PM (#217883 - in reply to #217875)
Subject: Re: Makes no sense to me!


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Location: Central Texas
Well, I don't like mopeds, but Ovations and big girls are pretty fun. :)
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