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Oddball
Posted 2008-10-13 11:17 PM (#16579)
Subject: Quick Question


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This eBayer claims shallow bowl for this old Legend, but it looks middy to me. Per usual, it is not listed on archives of ovationguitars.com. So I bow to the wisdom of yon sages (that would be you guys).
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-14 12:18 AM (#16580 - in reply to #16579)
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I don't think it's a 1667.

I thought a 1667 was a Balladeer, and that's no Balladeer.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-14 12:22 AM (#16581 - in reply to #16579)
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Oh, and he's saying shallow, which is different than super shallow. The shallows are mid bowl size.

And actually, I think he may have the right number after all.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-14 5:01 AM (#16582 - in reply to #16579)
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It's a mid-80's 1767, which is deepbowl cutaway Legend.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-10-14 7:52 AM (#16583 - in reply to #16579)
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Which is a great guitar. A braced top, gloss neck, and either a stacked volume/tone control or an OP24. Sounds great acoustically or plugged in. How much for it?
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Oddball
Posted 2008-10-14 1:09 PM (#16584 - in reply to #16579)
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Thanks verily unto yon sages. Now that I look at the photos again, it does look like a deep bowl.

It's currently at $.99 with no bids and 6+ days to go. Includes a nice brown/brown HSC.

Sorry for not including the eBay # in my original post. The auction is 170271358319. Gonna keep my eye on this one.
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Steve
Posted 2008-10-14 1:58 PM (#16585 - in reply to #16579)
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The current bid is at least 43 bucks... :rolleyes:
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Oddball
Posted 2008-10-14 8:24 PM (#16586 - in reply to #16579)
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I queried the seller and received answer just now: "The label inside the bowl does say model 1667."

So is that still a deep-bowl Legend? If so, why would it not be listed on OV website archive?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-10-14 8:49 PM (#16587 - in reply to #16579)
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OV website is not 100% accurate.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-14 9:35 PM (#16588 - in reply to #16579)
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I think it's a shallow bowl legend, but since that model was made in the early 80s and the super shallow bowls came out in the early 80s, it might just be a shallow bowl like the Country Artists.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-10-14 9:55 PM (#16589 - in reply to #16579)
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It's a Deep Bowl Cutaway Legend.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-15 5:03 AM (#16590 - in reply to #16579)
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Dave is correct, the pictures clearly show it as a deepbowl. 1767 was the model number for deepbowl cutway Legends from around 1985. Prior to that the model number was 1667. As this guitar has a waist-mounted stack-knob FET3 it's earlier than the seller states, probably 82/83, they had 3-band Op24's by '85, So 1667 is the correct model number.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-10-15 10:17 AM (#16591 - in reply to #16579)
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Yup....
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Oddball
Posted 2008-10-15 4:09 PM (#16592 - in reply to #16579)
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Thanks Paul.
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bowl playin boy
Posted 2008-10-16 5:45 AM (#16593 - in reply to #16579)
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Gallerinski is right about the OV website. I saw on ebay about 2 weeks ago a nice looking deep bowl 12 string and it showed the sticker in the bowl as model # 1155. Never heard of it and it is not listed on the OV website archive. Also after buying Old Man Arthurs 1718 Elite, i see that there are 2 seperate descriptions for it in the archives.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-16 10:26 AM (#16594 - in reply to #16579)
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I was going with the spreadsheet that Jerome has posted on the Ovation Tribute site. I thought it was the most accurate, but it has a 1667 listed as a shallow bowl.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-10-16 10:57 AM (#16595 - in reply to #16579)
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1667 is a deep bowl.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-16 12:20 PM (#16596 - in reply to #16579)
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That would make sense, since the price lists show the 1667s were produced from 1982-84 and the supershallow bowl (if I have this right) was introduced on the 83 Collector's.
Dave, why don't you get all the smart guys together in all your spare time and correct all the mistakes?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-10-16 12:41 PM (#16597 - in reply to #16579)
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That O-Decoder spreadsheet was started by Mitzdawg, and then Kim Keller and I took it over and finished it out with inputs from a few others. Miles has it posted up in the Reference Section.

HERE is the original thread.

THIS will link you to the original excel spreadsheet version in case anyone wants to play with it. You can email me whatever errors or changes you find.

Dave
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-10-16 1:05 PM (#16598 - in reply to #16579)
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If you get any updates, go ahead and email it to me and I'll update the reference page with it.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-16 1:11 PM (#16599 - in reply to #16579)
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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
You can email me whatever errors or changes you find.

Dave
Duuh! I've been trying to point out that it has a 1667 listed as a shallow bowl. Am I that subtle? Obtuse? Incoherent? Incomprehensible? Irrelevant is probably the appropriate word.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-10-16 3:25 PM (#16600 - in reply to #16579)
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Yeah Mark... The Ovation page sez that a 1121 is a deep bowl (it ain't) and a 1621 is a shallow bowl (which is a matter of perspective).

[they are both Artist-depth]
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-10-16 3:34 PM (#16601 - in reply to #16579)
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I know the Ovation page has a bunch of mistakes, but I thought the spreadsheet that Miles has in the Reference section was accurate, at least every other time I checked it.
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