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seesquare
Posted 2003-05-22 5:10 PM (#208699)
Subject: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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OK, now that I've invested in a classical guitar (my Spousal Unit will be pleased, I'm sure), what recommendations and admonitions would my learned colleagues have for stringing the CC163? Also, general guidelines for setting up the action and playability?
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alpep
Posted 2003-05-22 5:45 PM (#208700 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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LOL I always use the ball end nylon strings so I don't have to tie them.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-05-22 6:43 PM (#208701 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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OK, Al; I wasn't kidding....."ball ends", like the ends on steel strings? And, who makes those types? And, do they come in different gauges?
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alpep
Posted 2003-05-22 6:50 PM (#208702 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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many companies make the ball ends along with the tie ends.
Adamas
labella
etc etc etc
usually nylong strings come in low tension and high tension.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-05-23 9:27 AM (#208703 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Thanks! I shall begin shopping immediately. In a practical sense, if you have "high tension" strings, can you set the action lower?
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seesquare
Posted 2003-05-23 9:33 AM (#208704 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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BTW, I sent Miles an email yesterday, kindly asking him if he could shift this discussion over to the regular board. Somehow, I posted this to the sales board, after I had been perusing the contents of other entries. Inattention to detail. That's my excuse, not presenile dementia, as my sainted spouse would maintain.
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sipeswd
Posted 2003-05-23 10:53 AM (#208705 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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seesquare, I play D'Addario Folk Nylon on my CC059. Right now I'm using J34s, but next I'm gonna try J32s next because they are closer to the extra hard tension strings. Both are ball end (I tie them anyway) and the black trebles look really cool! If money is no object, The EXP classicals are pretty good, but you have to tie them. JustStrings.com has the best price on the internet.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-05-23 11:06 AM (#208706 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Many thanks, Don! I shall drift off in that direction to further my rudimentary education. Interesting, a CC059 is a classical? Maybe we should start a "splinter" group of "nylonheads"?!
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Steve
Posted 2003-05-23 6:08 PM (#208707 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Try Savarez 520P's. I use them on my country artist. Pretty stout response.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-05-23 6:13 PM (#208708 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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"Stout"? As in, bass response, or sustain?
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Steve
Posted 2003-06-30 10:47 AM (#208709 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Sustain more than bass response, i had tried other strings, but settled on the 520 p's, they were brighter, lasted longer, good string for acoustic or electric performance...
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TRboy
Posted 2003-06-30 6:40 PM (#208710 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings



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Hey Steve,
You sure you don't need a little more time to think about your reply?........ :D

Mike :cool:
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seesquare
Posted 2003-06-30 7:05 PM (#208711 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Mike, I think he's referring to the performance through the preamp circuitry. Steve, I hope that's your intent.
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TRboy
Posted 2003-06-30 7:15 PM (#208712 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings



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Hey See,
I was joking about how long it took Steve to answer your question - you posted May 23rd and he replied June 30th :p I just thought me might not want to be to hasty to reply!! :D :D :D


Mike :cool:
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Bailey
Posted 2003-07-01 1:27 AM (#208713 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Regardless

It's good to see some nylon acoustic opinions, let me give mine. Nylon acoustics are a whole nother world, and a good one, strings, design, and technology don't have nearly the influence in this world as technique. The way to conquer this world is to learn technique, whether it is the Latin rythyms, or the classical finger picking, it is a nother world, and a good one.
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seesquare
Posted 2003-07-01 9:26 AM (#208714 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Amen, Bailey! As I'm finding out. The guitar has excellent tone but doesn't want to stay in tune, its easier on my fingers but harder on the stretches; it has a whole, gentler nature to it. It has taken a few weeks for the strings to settle in, but they don't sound any duller than when originally installed, as was speculated, and predicted, by one of our colleagues. The electronics are pretty amazing with it, also. It gives a different dimension, in terms of presence; there's just a lot more guts to the sound than strictly acoustic. I tend to gravitate to more melodic, and slower, pieces of music. Yeah, technique.........
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Steve
Posted 2003-07-01 10:33 AM (#208715 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Hi trboy (and the rest) yes, I knew I had been late in responding; somehow I had missed the response to my first post regarding nylon strings. I remember trying different strings that sounded 'warm' and 'mellow' and that was fine but they burned out quickly. The physics involved in stretching guitar strings is unavoidable and it seemed to me that for my guitar (the country artist)the Savarez 520P's were the best overall. I only have 2 ovations now and I consider the country artist to be the most valuable of any I have owned. It's near mint and kept in dry storage. I play my custom balladeer exclusively and it's wear is obvious, but the older it gets the better it sounds. I have this "they don't make them like that anymore" attitude about this guitar. Most of the guitars hanging up in music stores today sound dead to me by comparison.
Guys, thanks for the dialog...
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Steve
Posted 2003-07-01 10:35 AM (#208716 - in reply to #208699)
Subject: Re: Primer needed for Nylon Strings


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Hi trboy (and the rest) yes, I knew I had been late in responding; somehow I had missed the response to my first post regarding nylon strings. I remember trying different strings that sounded 'warm' and 'mellow' and that was fine but they burned out quickly. The physics involved in stretching guitar strings is unavoidable and it seemed to me that for my guitar (the country artist)the Savarez 520P's were the best overall. I only have 2 ovations now and I consider the country artist to be the most valuable of any I have owned. It's near mint and kept in dry storage. I play my custom balladeer exclusively and it's wear is obvious, but the older it gets the better it sounds. I have this "they don't make them like that anymore" attitude about this guitar. Most of the guitars hanging up in music stores today sound dead to me by comparison.
Guys, thanks for the dialog...
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