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an4340
Posted 2008-10-22 4:28 PM (#15465)
Subject: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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I've won a BBE Univibe in a contest. It's an analog pedal. I'm thinking I'd like to get a overdrive / distortion pedal of some sort, some of my choices include, a BBE Green Screamer, Ibanez Tube Screamer, Bad Monkey or a POD 2.0. The question I have is will an analog univibe pedal mate successfully with something digital like the POD, or do you have to keep analog with analog?

Any opinions much appreciated.
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Omaha
Posted 2008-10-22 4:34 PM (#15466 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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You'll get as many different opinions as answers on this, but I can only tell you that after many years of chasing tone, I decided to go all analog, all the time.

I keep my pedals to a minimum, but there will be no digitization between my pickups and my speakers.

JMHO
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FlySig
Posted 2008-10-22 5:42 PM (#15467 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box



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Mixing won't hurt anything. The input signal from your guitar is converted to digital in a digital unit, processed, then converted back to analog for the output. So whatever is upstream or downstream from your digital pedal won't know or be affected by the digital processing.

The question is whether the sound of a pedal is good for you. If it works, it works.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-10-22 5:51 PM (#15468 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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"The question is whether the sound of a pedal is good for you. If it works, it works."

That's it in a nutshell.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-22 8:15 PM (#15469 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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Thanks.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-22 8:28 PM (#15470 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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The reason I asked is that a few months ago I played a Digitech Bad Monkey, which I love, into a reverb pedal that was analog, and the combination sucked, even though alone both sounded great ... and I was wondering if there was some analog to digital hoodoo. So I guess what I'm left then is taking my Soul Vibe to a store and just cranking it with a few likely combinations and see what I like ...

Anyone here use an analog univibe with an overdrive pedal?
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maxdaddy7271
Posted 2008-10-23 3:25 AM (#15471 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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What Flysig and Miles said. I mix with reckless abandon, looking for cool sounds. The question is always, "is this monster I've created worth listening to?"
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Omaha
Posted 2008-10-23 7:47 AM (#15472 - in reply to #15465)
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I don't know if this is all in my head or if its real, but my sense is that digital pedals and effects can sound great in the living room, but then go completely flat on stage. Something about getting them up to volume in a performance situation exposes how they lack the three dimensional nature that you want.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-10-23 9:33 AM (#15473 - in reply to #15465)
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This is not anything I've ever thought about before, so here's my dumb question. Having done no prior research on this, is there a quick way to determine which pedals are analog and which are digital (besides the obvious, i.e., Boss Digital Reverb, and older pedals that were designed before the digital age)?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-10-23 12:02 PM (#15474 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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There are also many many articles that suggest the "order" for multiple effects. Usually some variation on
1. Dynamic Range – Compression
2. EQ – Wah Pedal, Equalizer
3. Drive – Overdrive, Distortion, Fuzz
4. Modulation – Phaser, Flanger, Chorus
5. Time-Based – Reverb, Delay
... which is fine.

However, it's a guide. I had a setup with a Univox Reverb/Mixer for a long time. The rev/mixer was the first thing in the chain, because I rarely used the reverb with any other effect at that time. So.. the result was "when" I used the reverb, yes it was still last in the chain, because it was the only thing on. BUT, it didn't look like that when wired.

As has been said... experiment.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-23 12:09 PM (#15475 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box



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my setup is usually pretty basic. guitar->wah->overdrive->volume->chorus->delay->amp
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-23 12:20 PM (#15476 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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I know that analog just means the sound is processed electically, like with transistors, resisters and tubes etc. While digitially means there's some sort of computing going on processing the signal. When I've opened a POD it looks computery, more circuit board action, while analog pedals look more transistor radio-ey. Other than that I don't know.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-23 12:24 PM (#15477 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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When I get this up and running I evision it looking like:
Guitar>compressor>distortion>univibe>amp w/ reverb.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-10-23 12:37 PM (#15478 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box



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Tuner>compressor>distortion>driver>modeler, then XLR out to the house and 1/4" out to the AAD as a powered monitor. The tuner doubles as a mute switch.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-23 1:21 PM (#15479 - in reply to #15465)
Subject: Re: Analog v. Digital Stomp Box


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Oh yeah, I forgot my planet waves stomp tuner!

guitar>tuner>compressor>distortion>univibe>amp w/reverb.

That AAD is a nice monitor!
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