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Bailey
Posted 2003-08-03 1:55 AM (#206163 - in reply to #206113)
Subject: Re: Music mp3 file sharing


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Miles and all

It appears that the revolution has started and that the web may BE the future of music, it is up to us to make it happen. ALL of you board members think about it and propose YOUR solution. Some of them will be right and change the face of music distribution. Don't be afraid to propose the most wild ideas, we wouldn't have a laptop if every body thought a Univac 1108 was the final step in computer evolution. ( I worked in a company that had one and all the operators told us we would never be worthyn of that behemouth).
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grrroovedude
Posted 2003-08-03 3:29 AM (#206164 - in reply to #206113)
Subject: Re: Music mp3 file sharing


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Location: Netherlands
And it's happening sooner&faster than we think.

Ever thought of typing in www.jukebox.com

Brings you to yahoo launchcast. you can put together your own music station and buy the titles you like. It's what I always play at work, sitting behind my computer.

Martin
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BCastle
Posted 2003-08-04 2:44 PM (#206165 - in reply to #206113)
Subject: Re: Music mp3 file sharing


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Location: Dallas, GA, USA
So, regarding the legalities of d/ling music, since you guys say that even if the material is deleted people are still being tracked down by ISP records, what is the average Joe to do if he downloaded some music before, but decided it's wrong to do so? He just sits back and waits for the letter in the mail? This is not about me specifically, but it's worth talking about. They're running ad campaigns telling us "Don't download music, it's stealing" but it seems that if a person saw the ads, stopped downloading, and deleted the music he could still be fined if they decide to target him.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-08-04 8:03 PM (#206166 - in reply to #206113)
Subject: Re: Music mp3 file sharing


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Location: Scotland
Just to clarify, if a recording is "deleted" i.e no longer available for sale, because a record company chooses not to make it available, that does not change it's copyright status. The only material that can legally be distributed, copied, or recorded without permission from the owners is that which is classified as "Public Domain" Material becomes public domain if the copyright expires, or a number of years after the death of the originator or copyright holder unless the rights are assigned. The really cool thing is that if you record a public domain song and claim "Trad.Arr" or "public domain" you get the songwriting royalties as if you were the original writer. Start hunting.

Or did you mean deleted from the hard drive? It's been a long day.
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Bailey
Posted 2003-08-05 1:06 AM (#206167 - in reply to #206113)
Subject: Re: Music mp3 file sharing


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Location: Las Cruces, NM
Hey Paul

At my age all the songs I know are public domain. I intend to start a flurry of recording, folllowed by, I hope, great riches. I'm sure you all would buy a mandolin version of Sweet Adeline, done, of course, in two string harmony. Or Down by the Old Mill Stream in reggae style done on a Viper as Marley might have done. Sloop John B has already been stolen, but I visualize a rap version that will shoot right to the top of the charts and above like a roller coaster car that overshoots the highest hill and falls like your worst nightmare.

Bailey (now that I know the secret, I will buy up every vintage Ovation with my riches. Bid, and the world bids with you, bid high and you bid alone.)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-08-05 2:56 AM (#206168 - in reply to #206113)
Subject: Re: Music mp3 file sharing


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Posts: 7236

Location: The Great Pacific Northwest
Two more thoughts came to mind....

1. Newsgroups. Still the place to get the best music and movies. Was around long before Napster and similar were born. Why is are the the customers of the file sharing technology the only targets?

2. I predict that within the next 6 months to a year, a Napster or Kazaa like site will be setup overseas in a country that does not care about USA laws like copyrights. The users will not be able to be tracked (that's easy enough now). Only then will the record industry finally see that they need to stop fighting the symptoms and cure the disease. In other words start providing affordable and uncomplicated ways to provide music, by single song, to it's consumers on the internet.

It's just a prediction, but it seems the only logical next step.
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alpep
Posted 2003-08-05 7:53 AM (#206169 - in reply to #206113)
Subject: Re: Music mp3 file sharing


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Location: NJ
Miles
IS our trip to the islands still on???
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BCastle
Posted 2003-08-05 6:43 PM (#206170 - in reply to #206113)
Subject: Re: Music mp3 file sharing


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Posts: 63

Location: Dallas, GA, USA
Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Just to clarify, if a recording is "deleted" i.e no longer available for sale, because a record company chooses not to make it available, that does not change it's copyright status. The only material that can legally be distributed, copied, or recorded without permission from the owners is that which is classified as "Public Domain" Material becomes public domain if the copyright expires, or a number of years after the death of the originator or copyright holder unless the rights are assigned. The really cool thing is that if you record a public domain song and claim "Trad.Arr" or "public domain" you get the songwriting royalties as if you were the original writer. Start hunting.

Or did you mean deleted from the hard drive? It's been a long day.


Yeah, I meant deleted from the hard drive.

I can relate to the long day thing. I think somebody crashed a turnip truck in front of the shop; I only dealt with about 3 intelligent customers all day... :)
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