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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 2:55 PM (#15201)
Subject: AER Compact 60


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Hi,

I'm looking for a good acoustic amp for practise and small gigs.

Was thinking of a AER Compact 60.

Any thoughts/suggestions?
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-10-23 3:00 PM (#15202 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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The AER is supposed to be a good one but a couple of the guys here have mentioned the PJ aad cub 100 and, after looking that up, it seems to be getting great reviews. And it's half the price of the AER 60.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 3:05 PM (#15203 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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Ah! Cool, also was looking at the Roland AC90
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stephent28
Posted 2008-10-23 3:15 PM (#15204 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60



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AAD Cub....great sound from a small amp
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 3:24 PM (#15205 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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The AAD is certainly cheaper
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-23 3:25 PM (#15206 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60



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I have an AC60 and it works great.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 4:00 PM (#15207 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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You know what -- I think I'm being to give the Cub a try...
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BT717
Posted 2008-10-23 4:16 PM (#15208 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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Dweezil, I own a Fishman Loudbox 100 I know No one here say's much about them, BUT, I love Mine.
Compact, Under 25#s, 2 Channels with (1 XLR).Effects.Nice Acoustic Amp! Just one of many I'm sure will be suggested.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 4:39 PM (#15209 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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Hmm...

Seems to be a toss up between a Roland AC60 and AAD Cub - both about £270
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-23 4:45 PM (#15210 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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If i'm not mistaken, roland is a japanese company and AAD is from the UK. If there's a problem you'd at least you'd have a chance of speaking to mr. AAD.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 4:59 PM (#15211 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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AAD is American.

Roland amp has 3 year warranty and Roland being a LARGE company with offices in the UK I would say if anything goes worng with it I'm more likely to get better servicing/support with Roland not AAD
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schroeder
Posted 2008-10-23 5:04 PM (#15212 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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I've heard the Roland plays better with coated strings.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 5:06 PM (#15213 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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The advantage the Roland AC60 has is it has two channels so for my 1537 I can use a channel per output.

Plus it means I can have pickup going into one channel and mic the guitar into the other channel.

Cool. The Roland is winning.
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 5:06 PM (#15214 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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Originally posted by schroeder:
I've heard the Roland plays better with coated strings.
Are you kidding?!?!?!?!?!

I'm a recent convert to Nanoweb Elixirs!
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schroeder
Posted 2008-10-23 5:11 PM (#15215 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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It's like shooting fish in a barrel................
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 5:14 PM (#15216 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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So have you tried one? I'm going have to take the 03C down town and check out one...
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dweezil
Posted 2008-10-23 5:54 PM (#15217 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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Hmm but the AAD Cub seems to be highly regarded here trouble the only way to try one is to order one...
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2008-10-23 6:06 PM (#15218 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60



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Paul Templeman is a real believer of the AAD Cub and turned me onto them. For hauling gear to small venues, it simply can not be beat. It weighs 5.2 Kg/11.5 lbs, comes with its own padded carrying case, yet remains rated at 100 watts. It is built like a tank. I've added a tilt-back feature as well as a microphone stand receptacle to mine to enhance placement flexibility.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-10-23 6:44 PM (#15219 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60



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I thought Paul was a member of the ADD club.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-10-23 7:10 PM (#15220 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60



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FWIW, the Roland comes in a padded case, has the tilt back feature built in and is light as well.

It has 2 channels you are correct.

It also is what I was singing through when I did the Ozzy vocals. I used it's built in echo and chorus to nail his voice.

Pretty versatile. Can't say it's better worse or the same as the Cub as I haven't used a Cub. I do know I use 2 channels quite often though.

I'm a big advocate of Roland and their products. I've always had good luck with them and with service if I needed it. Most all my electronic musical gadgets are Roland, Boss, or Edirol because of this.

Again, I don't know ADD as a company, but I've said in other forums that my favorite music brands to deal with are (in this order)

Ovation
Roland
Peavey

Never had a bad experience with any of them.

THis is all my opinion, which is worth considerably less than a share of WAMU stock.
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-10-23 7:42 PM (#15221 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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And I just picked up a Genz Benz Shen Jr which is a great little amp too...
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-23 7:52 PM (#15222 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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Just over a year ago I was looking for an acoustic amp. My short list was the AER Compact 60 and the Roland AC90. I didn't even know the Acoustic Cub existed. Turns out a local store had all 3. I set all 3 with their masters up full, reverb and effects off (easy on the AAD, it as neither) and the EQ set flat. I Plugged in a Takamine off the store wall and used it's onboard EQ to get a sound. The AAD left the other 2 standing for sheer quality of sound, room coverage and headroom before distortion or feedback. It was also by far the lightest and least expensive of the 3

The AAD has no frills. No effects, reverb or feedback notches, just a gain control, 3 band EQ and a DI out. The input is switchable to ultra-high impedance so you can get a respectable sound from passive piezo pickups. The other trick up it's sleeve is the digital switching power supply. No bulky mains transformer, hence the light weight, and it'll work anywhere in the world, on any voltage, without the need for a voltage converter.

The other 2 are great amps, and if you need their extra features, then fine. I don't, I have plenty outboard gear. My ears told me that for my purposes this was the best of the 3, regardless of price.

And don't worry about it being a US product. The UK street price, for once, is about the same as the US dollar price, and they have UK distribution and warranty backup.

There's a reveiw of the AAD in this months Acoustic Guitar Magazine, here

AAD Cub reveiw
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-10-23 7:59 PM (#15223 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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What's a "digital switching power supply"?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-10-23 8:03 PM (#15224 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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It's an alternative to the huge coils of wire and stacks of metal that are the standard mains transformers found in instrument amplification, and apart from the speakers why they are so big and heavy. You know how you can use a laptop computer's mains adaptor anywhere in the world regardless of voltage? They've basically used the same technology.
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an4340
Posted 2008-10-23 10:42 PM (#15225 - in reply to #15201)
Subject: Re: AER Compact 60


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I guess I am mistaken, AAD is American, but Phil Jones is English.
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