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Location: SoCal | see eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2553447552&category=2384&rd=1
Until I joined the OFC, I knew nothing about the solid bodies from Ovation. This appears to be a unique instrument. Can any of our experts give me any guidance (yes, expert as in a complement)?
What is the seller referring to when he says "Has an out of phase switch"?
If the price is reasonable, I will win. However, it will be more for occassional play/collection - if I am bidding against an OFC member that will play it as a primary, let me know. I will back off.
Sounds strange? Done it before, as I won't let a good deal go by but would prefer that it was used as a "player" v. collection hanging on the wall. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I wish I needed it, cause it looks in nice shape.
"What is the seller referring to when he says "Has an out of phase switch"?"
He is referring to the fact that he knows little about the guitar. :) Actually I believe that is a "notch filter" and I shouldn't be so harch 'cause I'm not positive about it either. I know the one switch is the pickup selector, but I just use it and the other switch indiscriminately until I get a sound I like.
These are some of the best electric 12-strings ever made. I'm not terribly fond of the pickups, but think they work better on the 12 than on the 6-string model. THey are just very easy to play, not terribly heavy, and sound great. |
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Location: SoCal | Miles,
First of all - great site: http://www.baronaudio.com/COLLECTION/
Concerning the Preacher Deluxe 12, seller says 1975 and retail list in Reference section of OFC shows prices for 1978-1983. Ovation shows E+5 as 1975-1980 (guitar is E15168). Assume seller off in yr??
You have a great looking "052" as Preacher 12 w/chrome tuners, the 6-string "023" as Deluxe w/gold tuners. Ovation shows a 1285 Deluxe 12 with chrome and no listing of the non-deluxe Preacher 12. Is this one and the same? In other words, is the item for sale the Deluxe?
Ebony and magogany - nice combination.
By the way, my wife liked the comment you made on the site about your wife, arriving home w/eleven guitars delived by UPS. |
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Location: SoCal | re: Ebony and magogany - nice combination
been a long day - ebony and mahogany
maybe a catchy song title... |
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Location: SoCal | "Ebony & Ivory" was a tune Jimmy Webb wrote.
These are good guitars. They tend to go for more on the ebay market than where the bidding currently is, but they are very reasonable for the guitar you get.
Do a search thru the archives on this website and you'll find a lot of good info.
I bought mine last October and have been very happy with it. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | The switch is a mid range frequency notch. The Deluxe Preacher and Preacher 12 were advertized with the same flyer so there's some confusion between the two. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I think the paradigm was just Preacher (chrome, no electronics, stereo) and Preacher Deluxe (gold, pre-amp, non-stereo). The Preacher 12 on my site #052 has pearl tuners. I have it listed as having chrome hardware, and it looks like the pickups are chrome, but the bridge is certainly gold/brass. I'll have to take it out to see if the pickups are chrome, or just teh gold faded off, or just a bad picture. |
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Location: SoCal | The Preacher 12 string had chrome tuners with pearloid buttons. The pickups are chrome. The bridge / saddle was the same as on the Deacon 12 string (in fact, all the hardware was the same). |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | I suspect the reason that they were grouped together was that they both have active electronics. |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | Thanks
You have precipitated a GAS attack that can only be satisfied by the 12 string program. Unfortunately, I don't have the wherewithal to bid this beauty into the straosphere, so I will desist. But as the electrified drunk heads for the bar when exposed to a fifth of Jack Daniels, I will roam the ebay in search of the white 12 string known as Moby Pick as I stumble along on my one legged obsession. (My leg is tangled up in the phone cords).
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | He is referring to the fact that he knows little about the guitar...
Actually Miles, this guitar does have an out-of-phase switch. If you position the pickup selector to the back (which on most guitars would be the bridge pickup position) you will have both pickups on and OOP. There is a trim pot on the circuit board, accessed by removing the backplate, that allows you to regulate the amount of effect. There is also another trim pot in there that, if I remember correctly, adjusts the maximum neck pup output.
The middle position on the selector is the bridge pup alone. The forward position is the only one that is as it seems...the neck pickup alone.
I think all of the active electronic equipped Ovation electrics are set up this way. I have some literature that came with my Bluebird 12-string that illiterates all of this...which reminds me, I still owe Moody PI a copy of this...
I too, think these pickups work great for the 12-string models, with a big, jangly clean sound.
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Location: SoCal | Wayne:
I'd love to see anything that came with your Bluebird 12. |
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Location: Long Island, NY | Beauty guitar Tony.... had a mahogany one.. enjoyed it but used it to help pay for my Adamas.
I know that the abalone on the neck was part of the Deluxe package( the standard was dots) not sure if there were any other differences from the standard model... good luck, will keep my fingers crossed for you.
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Location: SoCal | There was no "non" deluxe Preacher 12 string. Only the 6 string came in standard and deluxe, and the configuration of those was real different in the electronics. |
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Location: SoCal | Thank you for the excellent feedback and encouragement.
As I said in the first post, I knew nothing about the non-bowls. Looking at Miles' great collection, other posted pictures, and the excellent discussion on OFC, I have been educated and converted.
Hopefully, I get it for a good price. However, unless it goes into the stratosphere - it will reside in San Diego! |
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1975 Ovation Preacher Deluxe - 12 string
