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Location: NJ | bailey
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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | We use these criteria in my office to categorize subjective significance: "Entertainment Quotient" versus "Knucklehead Index". |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | ...there is obviously some compromise involved in a fixed saddle...
Paul, I'm still not totally clear on this point; why do the G strings, which are both unwound, have a compensated saddle, while the D strings, one wound and the other unwound, have the uncompensated saddle?
Type verrry slooowly...
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Location: Scotland | It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me either. |
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Location: San Bernardino, California | It's due to the relationship of the guage of the strings and the tension needed for concert pitch. Some guages need more compensation than others. At the factory string guages are usually chosen for the way they feel (tension wise), so sometimes they need different intonation lengthes. |
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Location: Scotland | Bru, we're aware of the physics of strings, Wayne's question relates to why the 4th string saddles on the Ovation 12-string bridge are not compensated to different lengths for the regular & octave string, but strings 3, 5 & 6 are.
Wayne, there is no hard & fast rule about pairing the 3rd string on a 12-string guitar. Some players double the 3rd (like strings 1 & 2) but it's more common to have an octave string and most manufacturers sets of 12 strings contain octave 3rds, so that's why the 3rd is compensated, I'm still as confused as you why the 4th isn't |
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Here is a bridge pic to show what we have been talking about. Note the compensated/non-compensated saddle layout.
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Location: Scotland | Wayne, I was referring to the earlier Ovation bridge where the compensated saddle is fixed, rather than the Schaller version as in your pic. Either way they've gone with the same break-point for both 4th strings on both types. Interesting......... |
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Location: Las Cruces, NM | I would guess in Wayne's example that the compensation was a result of checking the tuning with a tuner at the 12th fret etc., and open and adjust the compensation until it is right. In other words, not a theory but an actual adjustment based on factual testing. It might vary from guitar to guitar. I don't think you can compare solid bodies to roundbacks here.
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Location: Scotland | Bailey, take a closer look. Not only is there overall adustment for each pair of strings, which is what you are referring to, but there are individual break points for the regular & octave strings on certain saddles (3, 5 & 6)
The point that Wayne and I are making is that it seems unusual that the 4th string pair, which are vastly different gauges, have the same break point, while the others have individualy compensated break points |
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interesting - a scam??
