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Tony Calman |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619 Location: SoCal | an article from 2000...errors, please advise http://www.vguitar.com/brands/details.asp?ID=104 | ||
Bailey |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3005 Location: Las Cruces, NM | Tony That is an interesting article, it's verity will have to be determined by people such as CWK-2. One thing that is new to me, is the allegation that Charlie Kaman worked for the Sikorsky Co., I went to school at the Sikorsky plant in Bridgeport CT in 1955 or 56 for the H-34, which the Army had began operating, and might have met Charlie if that is true. Bailey | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | According to the Ovation book, Charlie did indeed work for Sikorsky, but had quit & formed Kaman by 1945. One glaring error I spotted was that the Breadwinner in the picture is captioned as a "73 Preacher with Torriodal pickups" | ||
Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | Thanks for the interesting article. The BW pictured is just like mine. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | The materials used for the Thunderhead are wrong. It's got the maple laminate sides and back, but a solid spruce top. There are a few other things that I would question as well, but overall, it was a very good article and pretty interesting to read. I'm printing it out right now to go in the files. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | At first read the following jumps at me: *chk had a C-2 not C-7 Martin *Only one or two box fiberglass bodys made *Josh White came to CT with his band, not family *Thunderheads never had Humbuckers, always D'Armonds *Williwaw was the single pickup bass that was never made *There was never any work with Ripley, that was The marketing guy ripping off the idea. This was made with the same batch of Japaneese guitars mentioned. It probably was the manufacturer who said"I can do this for you and he replied, Sure, do a model like that" In all a pretty good article. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Paul, I had the electronics out of my Thunderhead & both Tornados to wax-pot the pickups. The plys of the laminated spruce top can be clearly seen at the edges of the holes for the controls. I can't recall any thinline semi with a solid top. The Gibson 300 series for example, were laminated throughout. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | I seem to remember reading in a catalog about the solid spruce top. I'll check it this afternoon. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | I think the catalog description is pretty vague. It says something like "finest spruce" but omits to specify solid or otherwise, which is a dead give-away | ||
Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6194 Location: Phoenix AZ | Paul and Paul, I can tell you for sure that the Thunderhead top is laminated. I tried to refinish one of mine and sanded right through the outer layer into the second ply. If you just remove one of the pickup surrounds you can also easily see the plys. Dave | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | all were lambinated. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | Laminated??? Well, hell, I'm going to throw mine out in the trash! | ||
Tony Calman |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619 Location: SoCal | re: Well, hell, I'm going to throw mine out in the trash! Let me know when, I'll get a truck and drive up...do me a favor, place in the case and pack very carefully. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | Actually, it makes no difference that it's laminated. Most hollowbody electrics have laminated tops, sides, and backs. The ES 175 and Es 335 are all laminated as well. Makes no difference for the plugged in sound. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Probably the only solid tops are the big carved ones, the L-5, Super 400, The Guild Artist award and that caliber guitars. All the 335 types were ply. (there must be some exception to this but they are true exceptions). Now the Hamer Newport which is a carved top is solid spruce. But it starts as a block of spruce and has the top carved and the underside around the sound holes only carved. It's still a block in the middle where it meets the mahogony of the back. Not in the same type of guitar as the 335 but a close interpretation for today's market. | ||
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