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Nils
Posted 2003-10-06 7:23 PM (#203387)
Subject: 1612 mid bowl deep bowl?


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I'm (tentatively) looking at a 1612 on the bay. It belongs to a drummer & he had enough trouble figuring out if it had a V neck or standard & didn't know what a nut was so he could tell me how wide it was. We have that sorted out for the most part (he's pretty sure it's a standard shaped neck & he came up with a nut width of 1-5/8, which I imagine is really 1 11/16ths) but I'm sure he isn't going to know if it's a mid or deep bowl so I thought I'd ask you "guys in the know".

tia,

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-10-06 7:37 PM (#203388 - in reply to #203387)
Subject: Re: 1612 mid bowl deep bowl?


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It's a deep bowl acoustic electric Custom Balladeer.
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Nils
Posted 2003-10-06 8:27 PM (#203389 - in reply to #203387)
Subject: Re: 1612 mid bowl deep bowl?


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Thanks Paul. I knew it was an acoustic/electric Custom Balladeer from the reference guide. I assumed it wasn't a super shallow, but I couldn't tell from the ref. section about the bowl depth. I like the looks of it. Is there a way I could tell what bowl it has from the model number or is that just something you knew from experience?

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Btw, did you ever find that Smothers Bros. tape or am I out of luck? My GC tape should be here any time now....
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-10-06 9:25 PM (#203390 - in reply to #203387)
Subject: Re: 1612 mid bowl deep bowl?


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Nils:

The standard Custom Balladeer was model number 1112. The "6" in the second slot indicated an acoustic electric. When the shallow bowls came in, the numbers changed.

I haven't found the tape yet. It's been busy here, but it should ease up after next weekend. I've got a ton of work to do, 2002 taxes to get out by Friday, and my wife and I are headed to Santa Barbara for the weekend for our 14th wedding anniversary.

After that, I'll look. In the meantime, can I offer you an MP3 of Mason Williams playing Classical Gas?
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Nils
Posted 2003-10-06 10:17 PM (#203391 - in reply to #203387)
Subject: Re: 1612 mid bowl deep bowl?


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1612: I'm never going to figure all these models out. Oh well, I don't need to as long as I know who to ask :) Thanks.
I like this guitar, but I think I'd like it better if it had a 5 piece neck & more holes. (No, shooting a few more in it wouldn't be the same!)
Obviously I've been selling unused crap like I mentioned earlier & I'm getting together a little cash for a 6 string O.
Come to think of it, maybe I should explain what I think I would like, that approach worked when I asked about the 12 string Elite :)
I would like a guitar like my Elite 12, (ac/el leaftop, 5 piece neck, cutaway), only with six strings & either a mid or deep bowl. I need something I can reasonably expect to find in reasonably nice condition somewhere for between 300 & 500 bucks (tops) What am I looking for?


I'm lucky, my wife is a licensed tax preparer. Happy Anniversary!

MP3: YES PLEASE :) Thanks Paul!

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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2003-10-06 10:32 PM (#203392 - in reply to #203387)
Subject: Re: 1612 mid bowl deep bowl?


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Nils, I have a 1975 year model 1612-4 Custom Balladeer. It is a wonderful sounding guitar. I just love its full deep tone. It has the 5 piece neck, and the old one volume control electronics. I really wish I could tell you how good this old guitar sounds.
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Nils
Posted 2003-10-06 11:20 PM (#203393 - in reply to #203387)
Subject: Re: 1612 mid bowl deep bowl?


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Aha! So some of the Custom Balladeers DO have 5 piece necks! Thanks for the info. I'm having fun looking & learning before I buy. I do have a problem with money burning a hole in my pocket. It's bad when you're on fire & you get hit with GAS :p

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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-10-07 5:03 AM (#203394 - in reply to #203387)
Subject: Re: 1612 mid bowl deep bowl?


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Nils, Custom Balladeers with 5-piece necks have the truss-rod access at the nut. If there's no rod cover it's a 2-piece with K-bar and access via the soundhole. Change happened around 1980-ish
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