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Slipkid
Posted 2003-10-09 3:51 PM (#203244)
Subject: Evolution of electronics



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If I buy a new O I know I will be getting the latest electronics. If I decide to buy a used guitar, what would be the oldest model year I should concider? I am sure there have been improvements over the years. Is there a certain year where the electronics took a big leap forward?
Thanks, Brad
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alpep
Posted 2003-10-09 3:56 PM (#203245 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics


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very subjective.
I like the op24 and op 24+ and the optima.
the op series that are moduler are not too different.
many like the old 2 knob or stck pots from the ealry days. they work well but are obviously limited.
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Standingovation
Posted 2003-10-09 4:25 PM (#203246 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics



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As I've written in previous posts, I would not let the type of electronics dictate my choice of guitar. This can always be upgraded. It's like wheels on a car. Don't buy a car just because you like the chrome wheels. Buy the car you really like and add your own chrome wheels later. Some electronic upgrades are simple (plug and play pre-amps) others are more invasive (like adding pu and pamp to an acoustic only guitar. But anything is possible, as long as you are willing to make the investment to do it. How old of an Ovation should you go? I would not go any earlier than 1966 for obvious reasons.

Dave

PS - I do particularly like the Optima preamp.
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TRboy
Posted 2003-10-09 6:07 PM (#203247 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics



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Hey Dave,
What's wrong with the models earlier than '66??.......something I should know about? :D (I'm always the last to know about somthing that should be obvious!! :eek: )
. . . .

Mike :cool: (I got a great deal on a 1963 Ovation xylophone!!)
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-10-09 6:25 PM (#203248 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics


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I aggree with Dave, I've said this on several occasions but it's worth repeating:- The Electronics don't matter. The original Ovation pickup is the best there is, bar none. The pickup is the crucial link in the chain, regardless of how sophisticated the preamp may be. As the preamps have developed they've acquired more bells & whistles, such as tuners & feedback notch filters which are very useful & welcome features, but all of the Ovation pre's right from the earliest, do what they're suposed to do, which is impedance matching. Anything else can be done at least as well by external processing.

Having said that, I have used an Ovation Mandolin with an Op24 for years and recently changed to a 30th aninversary Mando with an Op24+. I prefer the sound of the Op24. It's pretty subtle & probably no one else would notice but the earlier pre has more guts. They sound a lot more alike unplugged.
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Slipkid
Posted 2003-10-10 7:29 AM (#203249 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics



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Thanks everyone for the "ahem"....input on the electronics. I sounds like it should not be a factor.
Brad
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Beal
Posted 2003-10-10 7:32 AM (#203250 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics



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The 1964 Deluxe Balladeer Mo Paul model is the most highly sought after, both for it's acoustics and electronics.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2003-10-10 4:13 PM (#203251 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics


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There was a thread about this awhile back, but I too like the sound of the older pre-amps. It's not that they were better or worse or anything like that, but the newer ones specs are overkill. You can search for the thread, but as I recall the frequency response of the new pre-amps cover the range way above and below that of a guitar and most of it's harmonics. SO although an excellent pre-amp on paper, it amplifies things that are just not normally heard from an "unplugged" guitar.

I think the older pre-amps just translated the guitar (what the pickup hears) a little smoother without "enhancing" what we normally can't hear anyway.
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Beal
Posted 2003-10-10 6:53 PM (#203252 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics



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The OP-24 was the best one
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Bluebird
Posted 2003-10-10 7:36 PM (#203253 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics



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Hey Miles, your email dosen't seem to be working. Tried to send you a note.

Wayne
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richardd
Posted 2003-10-12 10:43 PM (#203254 - in reply to #203244)
Subject: Re: Evolution of electronics


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I like the Optima best.

Sounds great, easy to use and the tuner is very handy.

My 96' Custom Legend has one, the 1687 Adamas I special ordered has one and the 1688 Adamas 12 string I'm thinking of ordering will also have one.

....it is still avaliable.....isn't it ?
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