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Neil
Posted 2003-10-13 3:27 PM (#203121)
Subject: Filing nut slots


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I have an Ovation 12-string Balladeer (circa 1998)and realize that it is extremely difficult to fret the strings especially on the lower frets. I thought I might consider lowering the action. I understand that I must first set the neck relief. Then, I'm supposed to control the action by filing the nut slots and removing shims (if they exist) from under the bridge.

I checked on the web for guitar luthier supplies and a set of special-purpose files to do this is over $100. Are there any DIYers out there who can share what tools they use to do this? I realize I can take it to someone to do this, but I kinda want to do this myself.

Thanks,
Neil
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cliff
Posted 2003-10-13 3:32 PM (#203122 - in reply to #203121)
Subject: Re: Filing nut slots


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First step:

Check to see if there are shims under the saddle!
If there are, remove one and try the action.

That's the primary, LEAST INVASIVE way of lowering the action.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-10-13 3:42 PM (#203123 - in reply to #203121)
Subject: Re: Filing nut slots


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Cliff's right, and 9 times out of 10 it will solve the problem.
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Neil
Posted 2003-10-13 4:41 PM (#203124 - in reply to #203121)
Subject: Re: Filing nut slots


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Agreed. That would be simplest. However, I notice the biggest problem is on the frets closest to the nut. Do you still think lowering the saddle will help up there?
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-10-13 5:50 PM (#203125 - in reply to #203121)
Subject: Re: Filing nut slots


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If the problem is at the first few frets then an action adjustment at the bridge will have no significant effect. It requires, as you've already figured out, a nut adjustment. Cutting a really nice nut not only takes the correct tools but some skill & experience & modifying the existing nut or nut-slot isn't worth the hassle. Any nut work is especially tricky with a 12-string. The correct tools include proper nut files for the wound strings & saws of appropriate gauge for the trebles. Needle files aren't up to the job. A badly cut nut is a pain in the ass. (Cliff - inuendo alert!!!) A decent tech can make a new nut from bone or a good synthetic for around half the price of a set of nut files. If you want to try a quick fix you could crack off the existing nut and attempt to plane or file down it's base a little. If you remove too much material you can shim it back up. This is much less hassle than attempting to re-cut individual nut-slots without the correct tools.
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Legend-LX-Fan
Posted 2003-10-13 5:58 PM (#203126 - in reply to #203121)
Subject: Re: Filing nut slots


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Neil, cutting the nut slots is really a job for someone with experience. It is so easy to cut them to low, and you end up with a string banging on the frets. But nut height is so important for a well playing guitar. See if you can find someone in your area who does this type of guitar work. You will love the way your 12-string plays after you have this done.
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Neil
Posted 2003-10-13 6:56 PM (#203127 - in reply to #203121)
Subject: Re: Filing nut slots


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Thanks, guys. You convinced me. I'll take it to a pro.
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