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Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Has anyone seen or heard tell of these before? Wayne GC 1627 Limited Edition (30) | ||
alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581 Location: NJ | nope | ||
Legend-LX-Fan |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 1196 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | That is one nice guitar! Anyone have any more info on these? Love the gloss finish on the neck. Very nice. | ||
Stevechapman |
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Joined: April 2003 Posts: 2503 Location: Fayetteville, NC | They can call it a limited Glen Campbell Model if they want,.. Unless he signed the label it's nothing more than a limited run guitar with specs that perhaps match the guitar. My bet is that Al Hasn't heard of it-the guitar is just as I stated. Now maybe I'm Wrong..anything to ad Al? | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | Wonder what kind of bracing it has? | ||
Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192 Location: Phoenix AZ | I've bought 1 new and 2 used Ovations from this dealer and they are really great to deal with. If you call up and ask for Bobby, I'm sure he'll tell you all you want to know about this guitar. Dave PS - Al, I bought these guitars before I knew you were a dealer. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | So it's a non-cut mid-bowl Legend with a gloss neck & "old" electronics. I'm sure it's a fine guitar, it certainly looks great, but I'll bet my ass they won't get anywhere close to the asking price. Either way if this is an indication of they way Ovation are headed with some of the new stuff it has to be a step in the right direction. | ||
alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10581 Location: NJ | Dave I am not the only Ovation dealer out there and I certainly do not expect everyone to buy their guitars from me. I would like if that happened but I know it will not. There are plenty of good people out there with good reputations and they need to sell guitars too. Deal with whom you feel comfortable with and whom you have a relationship. IF you shop only price then you get what you pay for. I do appreciate any patronage but it is not required. | ||
samova |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 970 Location: Atlanta,Ga. | This is a real deal 2003 GC 1627...Made to the same specs as the early model 1627 exept for the electronics and no signature trus cover..I was told that they were even trying to make the bowls the old fashioned way.Not sure if this is the case on these 30 reissue models..Whats next?Early two knobber electronics? Adamas slotheads with carved headstock and heal?This could be a great year for the guys who love the early days of Ovation he,he,he Sounds like they are listening up there in Ct. | ||
Old Applause Owner |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 1922 Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Not listening hard enough....looks to me like they're trying to sell a $900(street-value) guitar for $1400. I like it, but not at that price! | ||
Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192 Location: Phoenix AZ | I disagree with OAO, I think the $1400. price is probably pretty fair. If you had to special order a deep bowl non-cutaway Legend with gloss neck, I'm expecting that it would cost you about $1400. So here it is already built for you and ready to go. This guitar will not appeal to everyone, that's for sure, and obviously that's why there are 30 of them, and not 3000. But as far as my personal preference this hit's it square on the head and believe me I'd scoop this one up in a heartbeat if it weren't for the fact that I've already got several very similar instruments. Take it or leave it. Dave | ||
Steve |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900 | Did Ovation ever offer a 'cut-away' campbell guitar? With such fast action it would be nice to have as much of the fretboard as possible to work with.... | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | I can't recall ever seeing a GC cutaway. The last catalogs I have listing the GC models are from '83 and they're non-cuts. | ||
Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192 Location: Phoenix AZ | I don't think the Artist bowl was ever offered in a cutaway. Moody - do you know? The Mid depth bowl (just a little deeper than the Artist) was/is offered in many cutaway models. A Legend mid depth cutaway would be essentially similar to a cutaway GC. Dave | ||
samova |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 970 Location: Atlanta,Ga. | The artist bowl was offered in a cutaway.I have a country artist from early eightees that is a cutaway..I have also seen a GC cutaway artist model.It may have been custom order but im sure they made a few.Probably not a regular production model though.. I also agree that $1400 is not a terrible price and all 30 should get grabbed up by GC fans or collectors.. Any way you look at it,its a step in the right direction for ovation.They can keep the traditional ovation fans happy and still keep selling the MOB & Elite T's to the younger crowd.. Not a bad marketing idea.. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | Per a January 1983 Ovation Information booklet (essentially the catalog of the day), with Nancy Wilson on the cover, Ovation offered the Glen Campbell models (models 1127 and 1627) with AAA tops, noncutaway, shallow bowl (5 1/8" deep), and A bracing. This was also when they began offering the cutaways. They built a Legend cutaway (model 1677) with AAA tops, shallow bowl (5 1/8" deep), and A bracing. Identical guitars except for the cutaway and the label inside. Even the GC trussrod cover is gone as this is when Ovation went to the K-bar. I've seen 1677's come up on ebay occassionally and would love to buy one, but the house needs new carpeting...... In my 1985 Ovation Information catalog, both guitars are still offered, but the GC has older electronics and the Legend shallow bowl cutaway has the OP 24. I can't find the GC model anywhere after that. The new mid depth bowls are 5 1/4" deep vs. the old shallow bowls' 5 1/8". I doubt if that 1/8" is going to make that much difference in the sound (I could easily be wrong on that). I suspect that the new mid depth bowl Legends are better guitars, acoustically, than the old GC models (or this reissue). I learned from Ovation that the reissue GC model had the older VT-8 bracing. Right there, I wouldn't be interested in it. I never cared for the sound of the VT bracing patterns. The bass strings always had a "shallow & plastic" sound to them. The "A" bracing pattern that Ovation went to, warmed up the bass strings and gave them depth. But that's a personal opinion and I know of a number of people who would disagree with me. | ||
Mario |
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Joined: April 2003 Posts: 557 Location: Burbank | I have a 1627 with an 1985 serial number. It does not have a truss rod cover (like mentioned previously). In all it's warped/wavy-top glory sounds awesome, and better than my brother in-laws Martian any day!!!! It is nice to see it have some new relatives. It sure would be interesting to compare. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | Mario: Your 1627, built in 1985 has the "A" bracing pattern. I'm not surprised that it has such a great sound. After what was, in my opinion, a disasterous time in the 1970's, when the bracing patterns didn't help Ovations at all, in the early 1980's, Ovation went to the "A" pattern on a great number of their guitars (something you pushed for, Bill?). This began a long period, continuing thru today, where Ovations sound wonderful acoustically. | ||
Legend-LX-Fan |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 1196 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana | I wish they would have reintroduced this guitar without the K-bar, and the old regular truss rod neck. My 2002 collectors is made this way, and this way the GC guitar could have had a genuine Glenn Campbell truss rod cover! (LOL) | ||
Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192 Location: Phoenix AZ | Paul, I have put truss rod covers on nearly all my k-bar necks (see gallery). I just think it looks way better than that big plain slab of wood for a headstock. The only downside is you put three small screw holes in your headstock, but so what. Dave | ||
TRboy |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2177 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Dave, I like your "so what" attitude about the three little holes in your peghead! When I first saw in your gallery where you put a GEN-U-WINE Glen Campbell truss rod cover on your "book" guitar I said (to myself of course) that you've done gone and f*****-up a collectable guitar by putting a non-issued piece on and therefore "killing" it's value and then I said (to myself of course) that it's your guitar and if you want to "add" anything to it then "so what" it's your guitar!!! I thought of you when I drilled the three small holes in the peghead of my Legend 12 string to mount my GEN-U-WINE Glen Campbell truss rod cover!! I just smiled and said "SO WHAT!!!" (to myself of course :D ) . . . . Mike :cool: | ||
Old Applause Owner |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 1922 Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | I figured I would get hammered for thinking $1400 was too much and I wasn't disappointed! I'd just like to say that not all of us can justify a guitar on the wrong side of $1000 to our spouses..... My "gripe" is that the highly desirable features (to me) of U.S. made, deep bowl and no cutaway are only being sold on expensive limited edition guitars, specifically the Folklore Limited Edition and now this. I guess Kaman wants me to buy either a Korean-made CC01 Celebrity (which I did already) or a used older model(which I am considering). | ||
Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192 Location: Phoenix AZ | Mike, That's really funny that you bring that up about the truss rod cover on my book guitar. In fact I have installed (screwed) truss rod covers on most of my k-bar guitars, but NOT the book. I just could not bring myself to do it. The truss rod cover on the book guitar is actually installed with very strong but thin double face tape! I cut off the gold heads of three truss rod screws and these are carefully attached each with a small dab of rubber cement. It looks absolutely permanent, but in fact can be popped right off to return the guitar to original specs. That's so funny that you brough this up. Dave | ||
TRboy |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2177 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | Dave, WHAT A WUSS!!!.....LOL.....DAMN,This is funny and scary cause I too considered just "faking" the installation but I was going to use silicone (didn't think of the double-sided tape..good one!)to hold on the rod cover and screw heads but I rationalized that I wanted a GEN-U-WINE Glen Campbell truss rod cover to dress-up my 12 string (making it an unofficial Glen Campbell model 12 string w/cutaway) that I went ahead and drilled away and if I ever sell (Heaven forbid) my 12 that the GEN-U-WINE Glen Campbell SIGNATURE truss rod cover would just add to the price!!! . . . . btw how's your birthmark,Bro :D . . . . Mike :cool: | ||
Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192 Location: Phoenix AZ | I still have that scar where we were seperated. Dave | ||
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