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Steve |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900 | I've been stringing my Legend with the D'Addario EJ-18's tuned down to C-standard. The low E string is tight in the nut slot. I've been looking around to try some other strings. For example: D'Addario XL Nickle Wound Baritone 13-62 DR Handmade RPMH Med-Heavy 13-56 Cleartone 7423 Bluegrass 12-56 Elixir Heavy Nanoweb 12-52 Has anyone tried the DR's or the Cleartones? steve | ||
FlySig |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4028 Location: Utah | I've tried Cleartone lights Phos Bronze but not the Bluegrass version. They have a nice sound on my 6778LX, more alive than D'add coated strings. Not quite as much zing as new Martin Marquis, but darned close. I would recommend them if you want a coated string. Tuned down one step to D they sound very full and deep, tuned normally they sound fine. They are on the 6778LX now as I try to sell it. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | I like the EJ18s. Just enlarge the nut slot a wee tad. | ||
Steve |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900 | Yep, the EJ-18's low E is a 59 and it's about as tight as it can be in the factory nut. I'm thinking a 62 would risk splitting it, and I don't want to alter the nut. If I've ever used DR strings I don't remember them, but maybe I can find a set of those med/heavys. They seem to be few and far between. There was only one set listed with all the strings on ebay. | ||
stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Ditto the EJ18s I have tried 2-3 custom sets from other manufacturers but the EJ18s seem to have the best tone on my 2080D....YMMV | ||
Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6992 Location: Jet City | mmm... 2080D... mmm... some day sorry for the hijack. Please carry on | ||
Steve |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900 | I'm still curious how the DR or Cleartone heavys will sound. I hear the Cleartones are a little pricey. | ||
ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | During his workshop, Matt used a 72 as his No. 6 string tuned down to D. The guitar was just a standard 1778 from the wall of the music store. I doubt they did anything to the nut slot. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | He didn't but it was sitting up really high. Just go with the 18s and open the slot a scosh if needed. | ||
schroeder |
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Joined: November 2004 Posts: 4413 | Define a scosh. | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | It's a bit more than a smidgeon and a lot less than a gob or a dollup. | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | Or better yet, a scosh is the difference between the amount of Whiskey a Scotsman pours in his own glass. Unless he's drinking with an Englishman who bought the bottle, then it's two scosh's! | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | ". . Define a scosh . ." 3 or 4 RCH's. | ||
Capo Guy |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394 Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by MWoody: Speaking of Englishman, I wonder what Jeff & Schroeder are doing?Or better yet, a scosh is the difference between the amount of Whiskey a Scotsman pours in his own glass. Unless he's drinking with an Englishman who bought the bottle, then it's two scosh's! | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | Cliff, how vulger! On the Left Coast they are RPH's, BRPH's and BPH's. This being a scosh more repeatable as well as being more readily available for calibration. A Trekkie variation would be the KNH (Klingon nose hair) for gaps and the VAC (Vulcan ass-crack) for tighter tolerance. It must be my bed time now............ | ||
Damon67 |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6992 Location: Jet City | Is the diameter different on RPH vs BRPH vs BPH? (or for you "East Coasters", RCH vs BRCH vs BCH) | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | It's an EastCoast-thing. CH's were prevalent units of measure with Jersey machinists & engine builders . . . | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | Hey Big D, The BRPH is readily visible in your coffee while the BPHs are nearly impossible to cough up. But speaking of setting up the VXT... you may not ever get a pure acoustic sound but you will always have the blend options. Professor stated he uses mostly piezo while I prefer to add some Piezo to the magnetic side. What I've used lately is a Blackheart 112 amp with Boss Tuner, Compression, Blues Distortion and Delay with Tap on the Mag side. On the Piezo output is a Chorus and a Octave to flavor the tone. It's good to have options! | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | "CH's were prevalent units of measure with Jersey machinists & engine builders . . ." As were the "wife-beater" T-shirts and a total misunderstanding of foreplay... | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | y'make it sound like it's a BadThing . . . | ||
ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Woody, you've got me thinking. I do primarily use the piezo and dial in some magnetic for leads, but I'm using a mono chord into the pedal board through peadals, including the Zoom, preset for the piezo. This porbably doesn't really do much for the magnetic pups. I ought to use a stereo chord with a tube amp for the electric side, just like Matt's demo. However, all of my tube amps are beasts. I need to consider how I might create a set up between me and the house board that better utilizes the 'lectric side of the VXT. Anybody know of a good small tube amp? My smallest is a Deluxe Reverb. | ||
Steve |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900 | ..wow, this thread went out to left field in a hurry.. :rolleyes: ;) I'll try the D'Add nickle-wound heaveys the next chance I get. Maybe I can get it to seat well enough without it rattling. | ||
FlySig |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4028 Location: Utah | Alternatively run through a tube preamp. The ART Tube costs about $29.99 and is pretty darned good. You can run it from clean to totally distorted. | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | My Blackheart 112 is switchable between 3 and 5 watts into a 12 inch speaker. It is very controllable in a small space and when mic'd out can be balanced with the house. The acoustasonic Jr. or Shen Jr's work with the Piezo side easily. Even without an Amp the Boss pedals out to the house with the Radia DI works nicely. Stop thinking of the outputs as "Electric" and "Acoustic" and treat them as "Magnetic" and "Piezo" for processing purposes. You can dirty up the Piezo and clean up the Magnetic for cool tone as well! | ||
MWoody |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 13984 Location: Upper Left USA | Now, on baritone strings: The Poor man's baritone using a .078" thru .062" as the low E and then using a Med/Heavy set starting at the 5th and so on - works great with no change in string tension. There are a couple of good web stores to get the custom and odd type strings at good prices. www.juststrings.com is one. And my apologies for overshooting the VXT post and going gutteral here. I think I need a nap. | ||
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