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Dr Zhivago
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Bailey |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3005 Location: Las Cruces, NM | Watched PBS's Dr Zhivago part 2 tonight and enjoyed it as it has been many years since I read the book so I couldn't criticize. But my main comment is there was some good guitar background music and I didn't recognize any Russian folk music from my days of studying Russian where we had to learn folk songs. Whereas, when I watch a Ken Burns feature, I recognize almost every song that is played. I guess my comment here is, does anybody know how they do those background scores? Bailey | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | Bailey: What will amaze you about that movie is the song that it inspired. A little known songwriter, who played a unique American instrument, watched that movie and was inspired to write a song that became a classic. Wanna guess who the songwriter was and what the tune was? | ||
Standingovation |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 6192 Location: Phoenix AZ | Laura's Theme ? Jean-Michel Jarre ? | ||
an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | How about what instrument? Uniquely American mmmmh ... Five String Banjo? Mountain Dulcimer? Kazoo? Uke, is that unique? Any clues for us Moody?! | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | It was somebody who saw the movie in a theater, walked out, and wrote a song. 5 string banjo. | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Dave, "Lara's Theme" was written by Maurice Jarre. There's not many Banjo players who are also songwriters....John Hartford maybe? Time scale is about right, the movie came out in the mid-60's and Hartford was having hits around '68/69 The banjo is the only indiginous American instrument. What did the rest of the world do to you guys to make you put strings on a drum and inflict upon us the most annoying instrument ever (Only kidding, kinda) | ||
cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Kermit the Frog? | ||
an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | The only thing that jumps at me is Orange Blossom Special, I know that's wrong, but that would be cool if it was. I suppose that's too happy, Unless, they were carting oranges to Siberia. More mystery ... Mystery Train ... These songs are too old. Trains and bluegrass. But only John Hartford fits the bill. | ||
willard |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 1300 Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Anybody elses wife make them keep the family silver in the basement "just in case". It's kind of a joke around our house. | ||
stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | Nope, not the family silver. But she does like to keep the family jewels close at hand, "just in case". Rumo(u)r has it that this is a joke in my house. :eek: | ||
Old Applause Owner |
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Joined: July 2003 Posts: 1922 Location: Canton (Detroit), MI | Don't remember the songwriter, but could we be talking about the theme from the movie "Deliverance", "Dueling Banjos"????? I think "Orange Blossom Special" predates "Dr. Zhivago" by several years....I remember it being played at country music shows when I was a little whippersnapper (late 1950s). | ||
Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | "Orange Blossom Special" is a fiddle tune which predates the movie by several decades. Eric Weissberg was responsible for "duelling banjos" Weissbergs session credentials are pretty impressive (he was a Dylan sideman for a while) but he is known as an instrumentalist, rather than a songwriter. True story: guy comes up to me at a gig looks at my Ovation Mandolin and asks "is that a Mandolin?" "Yes" I reply, expecting a vaguely intelligent mandolin-related response. "Great!" he says, "are you going to do duelling banjos?" When I explain to him that duelling banjos actually by definition requires a banjo he says, "Oh...Ok, do you do any Zeppelin?" I'm still not sure if he was aware that Page occasionaly played Mandolin, or he was just a total fuckwit. | ||
seesquare |
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 3603 Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire | Jeez, pearls before swine. Careful, Paul; you may jeopardize your premeditation defense. | ||
TRboy |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2177 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | John Hartford - Gentle on my mind! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mike :cool: | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | Bingo! Mike, howdya know? | ||
Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | If Trboy is like me, he cheated! :) Gotta love that Google... "Hartford's description of the fateful song's birth is conveys a simple matter of seizing the moment: "I went to see (the movie) Doctor Zhivago and I think that movie may have had a little bit of influence on it- that kind of lonesome, travelling feeling... I just went home like every other night and thought I had some kind of a song on my head, and I wrote it out and put it down on paper real quick- took me about fifteen minutes to do it." ** To date "Gentle On My Mind" has seen well over three hundred recordings (some estimates put it at between 400 and 600) and over six million broadcasts. In the big picture it had to be the most productive fifteen minutes he ever spent. " Wayne | ||
TRboy |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2177 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | John is/was my 2nd cousin - we saw the movie together!!! . . . . . . . . . Mike :cool: | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | Very very cool!!! Did he play Gentle for you before he recorded it? John, from everything I saw and read, was a class individual. I heard that Gentle song gave him the financial freedom to do what he wanted for the rest of his life. | ||
TRboy |
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Joined: February 2003 Posts: 2177 Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | I taught him how to play the banjo and I got him that gig on that Campbell fellow's show too!!!(while I'm pulling your leg I might as well lay it on thick! :D :D :D ) . . . . . . . . Sorry Paul :) But John was a class act!! . . . . . . . . Like Wayne said - "Gotta love that Google" . . . . . . . . Mike :cool: :D :D | ||
Bluebird |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1445 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada | Ya had me to, Trboy! " I heard that Gentle song gave him the financial freedom ..." Paul, I read that at the time of his death he was still getting $50G per year in residuals from the one tune...pretty decent "freedom" for the fifteen minutes invested 35 years earlier! Wayne | ||
deniz15 |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 2 Location: North Carolina | That movie was cool... I saw both parts. The Music seem to fit the tone and depiction quite well. THe movie is available at pbs.org on DVD and VHS,... Not a bad Holiday Idea.. | ||
Bailey |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3005 Location: Las Cruces, NM | Dang I never in my life learned so much from a post that I kinda threw out there because I liked the guitar playing, Gentle on My Mind, Lara's Theme, American folk music, it all came together in a cosmic moment. This post has elements of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy that showed up on a list of the best books of the century along with Dr Zhivago and Lord of the Rings. Is this board zinging out into space or what? Bailey :cool: | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15654 Location: SoCal | "Space, the final frontier....." | ||
Bailey |
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3005 Location: Las Cruces, NM | We may be the first to populate that frontier, even if it is only in our minds. (I have to admit that Gentle on My Mind has invaded my consciousness and plagued me all day today as I contrast it to Dr Zhivago. That Lara in the newest version does have elements of "It's knowing that your mind is free to wander, and keeps my sleeping bag rolled up beneath your couch". I'm moving to the Urals.) Long live the revolucion. | ||
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