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an4340
Posted 2008-11-03 2:04 PM (#13907 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?


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By the way, there's no nice way of firing anyone. Best to do it on pay day or friday afternoon.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-11-03 4:23 PM (#13908 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?



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There are actually several nice ways to fire people. I have fired people up, out of jobs they were no good at to something they were more qualified for but afraid to take the challenge.

One very creative, and marginally illegal practice, is to find a better job for the person and get them hired there. In the case of the musician and band in question, you might find a musical situation that was more appropriate for the person in question and point them in that direction. ("You seem to be more of a blues player and we're building a dance band. Maybe you want to see about joining The Bluesberry Jam Band, here's the leaders number."
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FlySig
Posted 2008-11-03 6:13 PM (#13909 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?



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To do it with integrity, it seems that the firing should not be a surprise. It would be unfair to string someone along thinking that they are meeting the band's expectations and then to suddenly fire them.
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ozwatto
Posted 2008-11-03 8:23 PM (#13910 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?


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I think he was expecting it FlySig..and he took it pretty well, agreeing that he wasn't quite ready.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2008-11-03 9:16 PM (#13911 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?


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Damon needs a gig...travel might be prohibitive tho...
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Omaha
Posted 2008-11-04 1:00 AM (#13912 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?


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I've had to fire more people over the years than I care to contemplate. Not just in bands (actually, that was the least of it).

My only advice is to be quick, clear and direct. Don't try to "soft sell" the news. Its hard news. You aren't going to make it easy. Don't try.

Assuming the circumstances are right, I prefer the "its a bad fit" story. Its not them, its not you, its just a bad fit. Saves face all the way around, and when you think about it, its almost always true.
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Beal
Posted 2008-11-04 7:09 AM (#13913 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?



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You say, "Now don't take it personal, and don't get mad, but F@#K YOU!"
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-11-04 8:37 AM (#13914 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?



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Beal, you remind me of my brother. I was visiting one day when the doorbell rang. In one constant move, he opened the door, yelled "F*#k off!" and slammed the door. I said "Who was that?" he said "(*name of religious group deleted*)".

Needless to say, he's not on their call back list. Much more efficient than my "No thankyou" but I'm thinking there must be some drawbacks to his method.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-11-04 11:56 AM (#13915 - in reply to #13882)
Subject: Re: Is there ever a nice way of doing this?



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I have a gold plated skull with horns picked up in Japan in 1970. It was supposed to be a good luck charm or something though it's got a positively evil grin. When the door-to-door ministry comes to our stoop I just point it out and say, "I've got mine."

There have been a few exorcism circles around the property, but no one rings the bell any more.
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