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Paul Templeman
Posted 2003-12-29 4:22 AM (#198261)
Subject: Early Elite on Ebay


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These are killer

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2369347897&category=47064
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Beal
Posted 2003-12-29 5:14 AM (#198262 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay



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the buy it now is about half what it should be. Someone should jump on it. These could well be the next "big one" after the slotheads. there was a fair number of them and they were all good.
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alpep
Posted 2003-12-29 7:09 AM (#198263 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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what cwk said
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-29 9:05 AM (#198264 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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I've owned one for 10 years and while I may buy an LX this coming up year, I'll never sell my 1537. Great guitar.
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Bradley
Posted 2003-12-29 9:40 AM (#198265 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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While we're talking 1537....

What grade of wood was used for the top. I've never seen such a pronounced grain pattern in a spruce top as my 1537 has. I tried to photograph the top and it almost looks like maple in some places.

Also, it has these funny swirls in it. Take a look in the gallery at my 1537. You can see what I mean if you look at the top below the bottom knob (it is more diagnal). Bear claw perhaps?

Bradley
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-29 10:56 AM (#198266 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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It should be AAA, selected spruce. Ovation was using it's best wood for these guitars. They were the top of the wood top guitar line.

Mine has the same beautiful wood. Almost looks like velvet from some angles.
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dolbyscat
Posted 2003-12-29 2:42 PM (#198267 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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Location: hatzic lake, bc, canada.
ive noticed a couple of times when these have come up for sale that they are posted as "adamas"whats the reason behind this? bought mine years ago from a friend,absolutly as new for $300 still hasnt got a mark on it.real nice playable guitar,just restrung it for christmas,sang silent night once,then my wife turned on the stereo,well ive never been much of a singer,but whatever happened to goodwill to all men.
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Standingovation
Posted 2003-12-29 3:35 PM (#198268 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay



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It was originally called the "Wood Top Adamas" while in development. When it was released as a finished product the name was changed to "Elite". Dave
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stellarjim
Posted 2003-12-29 4:14 PM (#198269 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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TEMPTING! Very tempting. Don't email this post to my wife!
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dolbyscat
Posted 2003-12-29 4:14 PM (#198270 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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thanx dave,now i"ll be able to sleep tonight.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2003-12-29 7:20 PM (#198271 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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A lot of ignorant people call all Elites and Celebs (with multiple sound holes) Adamaii. They see the soundholes and just don't know any better.
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Bob Mintus
Posted 2003-12-29 9:17 PM (#198272 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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I'm tempted. What is the Preamp and how does it compare with the modern versions? I would assume that with the deep bowl it should sound great unplugged. Unfortunately, Ovation's web site is lacking....
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Bradley
Posted 2003-12-29 10:18 PM (#198273 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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Originally posted by alpep:
what cwk said


Just curious.

How does the 1537 Elite compare the the wood topped Adamas I dreadnaugh you have for sale??? Was this the prototype of the 1537 Elite????

Bradley
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Bradley
Posted 2004-01-01 10:15 PM (#198274 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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Just noticed, the same person is selling this Elite cutaway...


Ovation 1547 Elite CutAway

Buy it now is $1050. Probably worth every dime!

Bradley
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-01-01 10:58 PM (#198275 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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Bob:

The preamp is the stereo preamp developed for the first Adamas models. It was considered high end in the mid to late 70's. It is also known as a "2 knobber" for the volume and tone control knobs. They work great. If you feel the need for more control, buy an external eq box. I wouldn't mess with the preamp.

By the way, the Elite that started this thread is the 81st one built.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-01-02 3:02 PM (#198276 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay



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Seller ended the item early and sold it to high bidder at $500.
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Bradley
Posted 2004-01-02 6:46 PM (#198277 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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$500?????

I wonder how that came about?

Well someone got another steal. No wonder I won't sell mine.

I wonder if someone here can steal that 1547 cutaway from the same seller?

Bradley
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-01-02 7:06 PM (#198278 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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I despair. This is one of Ovation's nicest guitars. They should be reaching at least a grand $US. Someone got a great deal, but if this is indicataive of market perception, then we're all a bunch of fuckwits & all the Taylor & Martin owners and the rest of the "handbuilt" snobs are laughing their dicks off at us.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-01-02 7:53 PM (#198279 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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Paul T., the Martin and Taylor owners may indeed be laughing at us (relative resale of those guitars does appear to be greater), but it doesn't strike me it came into play in this case...just looks to me like the seller didn't know what he had, and wanted a quick sale and quick money.

If I were the buyer, I'd be nervous if someone was that eager to end the auction and take a quick buck.

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String
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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-01-02 10:21 PM (#198280 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay



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I agree...every once in awhile, an auction is closed early. Happended with me on the #6759 CL 12-str - bid on it even though I fully believed it would go above $900. Seller closed it 2 or 3 days early and sold to me for $650. I was going to back out at $700. What can I say? He played it on the Elton John 2000 tour and probably didn't pay for it. That's why I always try to have the high bid hanging out there if it is below or near what I ultimately feel I would be comfortable paying. Never know the motivation or knowledge of the seller.
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Bradley
Posted 2004-01-03 12:08 AM (#198281 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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Originally posted by Old Applause Owner:
Paul T., the Martin and Taylor owners may indeed be laughing at us (relative resale of those guitars does appear to be greater), but it doesn't strike me it came into play in this case...just looks to me like the seller didn't know what he had, and wanted a quick sale and quick money.

If I were the buyer, I'd be nervous if someone was that eager to end the auction and take a quick buck.

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String



The killer is that this guy has TWO of these he's selling.

Maybe I should put a bid in for $500 and see if I get lucky. Still, I can't figure out why the seller didn't just let it ride. I'm thinking about all the times I've been out bid at the last moment. Why end it early and just give the guitar away?

Oh Well,

Bradley
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Nils
Posted 2004-01-03 1:03 AM (#198282 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
I despair. This is one of Ovation's nicest guitars. They should be reaching at least a grand $US. Someone got a great deal, but if this is indicataive of market perception, then we're all a bunch of fuckwits & all the Taylor & Martin owners and the rest of the "handbuilt" snobs are laughing their dicks off at us.


I don't see the problem Paul. We can buy excellent guitars that look great, sound great & play great for a reasonable amount of money. I think that is good. Those Martin/Taylor people are probably over on BBS's somewhere lamenting the fact that they would like to buy such & such guitar but they don't have the two grand or whatever they'd have to shell out for a really nice used one.
Hell, we can buy four or five really nice used Ovations for two grand! What's the problem? :)

/\/\/
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-01-03 6:27 AM (#198283 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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There isn't a problem from a buyers standpoint. I was just making the point that Ovations in general and this guitar in particular should be worth a lot more than the market currently dictates. But we knew that already.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-01-03 7:41 AM (#198284 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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Bradley, in answer to your question("Why end it early and give the guitar away"):

1) The seller is truly desperate for quick money, like he has outstanding bills to pay, or....

2) He really doesn't have the guitar and is looking for a quick fleece, (you can do this several times quickly before eBay bans you, they are biased towards sellers in how they treat each party in a transaction) or....

3) He is clueless about the true value of the guitar, and just wants some quick money....

For the buyer's sake, I hope it's numbers 1 or 3. I have a close friend who got fleeced by a scam artist selling out-of-print CDs that bring $50-$100. He had a solid feedback rating of around 80, and he threw it away to scam about 10-15 people before eBay caught up with him.

This is why I may never buy a guitar on eBay unless the guitar looks really solid and the seller has absolutely solid feedback, or is an established online shop like OVG.

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String
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BruDeV
Posted 2004-01-03 12:42 PM (#198285 - in reply to #198261)
Subject: Re: Early Elite on Ebay


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It also could be stolen and the seller wants to get rid of it quickly.
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