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Tony Calman
Posted 2004-01-07 11:31 PM (#197759)
Subject: Glen Campbell 12-string



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the GC 12-string...
was it only as a slothead?
production started?
production ended?
when was the acoustic version phased out?
other than natural and dark sunburst - any other finishes?
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-01-08 6:03 AM (#197760 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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Tony, I presume you've looked here as a starter?

http://www.ovationguitars.com/index.cfm?fa=series&sid=349

Otherwise, I'm interested too as I have one coming within the next week, and I don't know any more than what is on the Ovation site.

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String
COMING SOON - 1986 Glen Campbell 12-string
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-01-08 6:49 AM (#197761 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string



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Acoustic version was produced from late '70 until 1981. A/E version from 1977-1981. Both were discontinued at the same time. All GC12's were slotheads and only came in natural or sunburst. I did however see one about 5 years ago from approx. 1975 that the owner had the factory refinish in gloss black. It was the best looking GC12 I had ever seen. Dave
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Bluebird
Posted 2004-01-08 7:58 AM (#197762 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string



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Dave, the GC 12's were introduced in Nov 1968, the same time as the six-string model.
As for colors, there was a black one that sold on Ebay a few months back. It had no truss rrod cover which would make it a later one.

Wayne
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-01-08 8:29 AM (#197763 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string



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Yes, you're right about late '68. I also forgot about the small sound hole GC12 and the ones with the bound neck but only dot inlays. I didn't see the black one on ebay, but it sounds like a different one than I had previously seen. The one I saw was definately mid 70's serial number and it had a truss rod cover. Dave

PS - Did the later natural GC12's switch to brown bowls or did they always stay with the black?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-01-08 8:41 AM (#197764 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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In the 1977 catalog (which is the last one I have from the 70's), the GC 12 string has a brown bowl (states that in the description).

If you guys want, on Sunday, when I've got some time, I'll scan and post a few pages from the catalogs I have regarding the GC 12 string. I've got the 1968/69 introductory sheets regarding the GC guitars (and as Dave/standingovation pointed out on that, it appears to be a photo of Glen's guitar with his initials airbrushed out at the 12th fret and the 3 inlays brushed in), the 1970 catalog, the 72 catalog, the 77 catalog, and the 80 catalog.
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zorjon
Posted 2004-01-08 9:14 AM (#197765 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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I did see that same black GC 12 string a few months back. Is there anyway to actually verify that Ovation dos not make additonal one off color guitars from time to time or when you custom order a guitar from the Factory will they produce it in a color different from the standard.

Come to think about it were there ever any black pacemakers produced?

John
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-01-08 9:37 AM (#197766 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string



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I don't think black showed up as a std. color until the 14 fret days on the Std. Balladeer, Legend, and CL 12 strings. Dave
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Bluebird
Posted 2004-01-08 2:57 PM (#197767 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string



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Paul M;

You are right, the GC six-string inside the introductory pamphlet is Glen's original one. As well as the top grain, the grain on the rosewood bridge is very distinctive and has helped me identify it on a few photos. I looks like all the fret markers were touched up in the photo to make them stand out more.

I would guess the 12-string is the first one too? Would love to track that sucker down!

Wayne
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-01-08 3:00 PM (#197768 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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Wayne:

The problem in tracking down Glen's actual guitars is who knows what he has and doesn't have still in his possession? He's kept guitars and discarded guitars in a random fashion (from what little I can tell).
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-01-08 6:29 PM (#197769 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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Interesting that Dave says the GC guitars were discontinued after 1981....the Ovation site gives a blurb "from the 1982 catalog" talking about the Glen Campbell guitars. Also, the seller for my GC 12-string says he bought it new from Mandolin Bros in 1986.

This is NOT to make any inference that Dave is wrong, it just means I am CONFUSED. Were the GCs in the 1982 catalog, but were never made? Did Mandolin Bros. have a new GC 12-string kicking around for 5 years before it was bought? Maybe the guitar was actually used and my seller doesn't remember that? I don't have the serial number; when I get the guitar it will clear up some of this.

One of Glen's 6-strings is in the Country Music Hall of Fame....wish I could have taken a picture of it to post, but they don't allow photography.

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String
COMING SOON - 19?? Glen Campbell 12-string
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-01-08 7:08 PM (#197770 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string



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Wrong? Me? Actually my source is the matrix of price lists in the reference section of this site. The last year the GC12 is listed is 1981. I guess the list could be incomplete. Dave

PS - The old "don't blame me I'm only the messenger" excuse.
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samova
Posted 2004-01-08 8:31 PM (#197771 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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The six string GC was offered in finishes 1-4-5(sunburst,natural and black) in 1983..The 12 string GC was not in the catalog because by then they had a balladeer and legend 12 string.Both 14 fret
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-01-17 6:42 PM (#197772 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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Now that I have my GC 12-string, I can add this....it was made in 1981, so it is quite possible that 1981 was the last year.

Looking at the model 1118 page on Ovation's website....it appears that the picture is NOT a Glen Campbell 12-string, but a CUSTOM LEGEND....so....be careful with believing everything on the Discontinued Model pages....this may well apply to the "1982" catalog blurb there as well.

For what it's worth....I'm sure a lot of you knew this, but I was surprised to realize that my GC 12-string is a 12-fret, not a 14-fret like my Melissa Etheridge.

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String
NOW HERE - 1981 1118-1 Glen Campbell 12-string
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bobfrith
Posted 2004-01-17 7:26 PM (#197773 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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Although I do not recall the exact serial number, I sold a sunburst Glen Campbell 12-string a couple of years ago that had a 29XXXX serial number, thus dating it late 1982. It was a transitional model, in that it had the old, composite bowl before the 1983 change, as well as a drilled hole in the cross brace for the K-bar,
although it had a truss rod.

As with most prodution guitars, it generally takes a few months, and sometimes a few years in certain cases, for production to catch up with the catalog, thus leaving discontinued models available during a time-frame that they should not theoretically exist.
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Jeff
Posted 2004-01-17 8:01 PM (#197774 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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My theory is that, basically, the GC 12-String was never discontinued. It was just given a new name (Legend 12-String) when they made the switch from slotheads to closed headstocks, and went from 12 to 14 frets clear on all their 12's. My best guess is that this change took place in 1982 or very early '83.

Jeff
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TRboy
Posted 2004-01-17 8:52 PM (#197775 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string



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I own a unofficial '90 Glen Campbell 12 string with cutaway!! (actually a Legend 12 with a GEN-U-WINE Glen Campbell truss rod cover added....works for me :D )

* * * *


Mike :cool:
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-01-17 9:29 PM (#197776 - in reply to #197759)
Subject: Re: Glen Campbell 12-string


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Jeff, I think you're absolutely right...that is probably why the picture of the Custom Legend is on the 1118 page, it's not easy to tell the difference between them....because there ISN'T that much....

Trboy, I think that's great.....if what you want doesn't exist, take it into your own hands to CREATE it!!!! :)

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String
NOW HERE - 1981 1118-1 Glen Campbell 12-string
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