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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-27 4:23 PM (#196462)
Subject: Portable PA Systems


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I am considering purchasing either of these portable PA systems: Fender Passport 150 or Kustom Profile System One.

It will be used in small to medium rooms and with 2-guitars, 1-banjo and 2-mics.

Anyone have any comments on these types or these models specifically? Which is better/worse.....?

thanks,

tim
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cliff
Posted 2004-01-27 4:40 PM (#196463 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Yeah, buy whichever one WON'T accept the banjo! :p
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Beal
Posted 2004-01-27 4:49 PM (#196464 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems



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Best to play the gigs with 2 rooms, guitars, mikes and PA in one, banjo in the other.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-27 5:41 PM (#196465 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Awwww, come on guys! The banjo is a 6-string! Not one of those "other" banjos.... is that a little better?

Any advice for the PA? I'll leave the banjo at home if I must....

tim
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-01-27 9:16 PM (#196466 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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I've never known a banjo that needed a PA system to make it any louder or indeed, more unpleasant, but if you must, check out the new Mackie active speaker. I saw these at NAMM, I own the bigger SRM450's and a couple of active bass bins & they are superb. All you'll need is a compact mixer with onboard EQ & FX and a pair of Mackies & you're good to go. It'll cost a little more than the stuff you're considering but will be far superior. The passport PA's & similar are toys.

http://www.mackie.com/products/srm350/index.html
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-28 7:35 AM (#196467 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Thanks for the input.... except for the banjo part :rolleyes:

I just really need something small, lightweight and very portable for the venues I play... I'll keep looking..

thanks again!

tim
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-01-28 2:50 PM (#196468 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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shameless plug,.... I am selling my old pa gear but it may not be portable enough for what you need
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-28 2:57 PM (#196469 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Billy,

Hope you get past the flu soon....I agree it suks!

What I'm looking for in a PA is something that is compact like a piece of roll-on luggage... the Kustom looks like what I need...

I'm not at the "real" performance level... mostly Elder Care/Rest Homes/Church venues....so don't need, nor could I do justice to a better system...

As for your new "mix problems" ... I'm sure Paul Templeman will contribute the needed sage advice... that's what is so great about this site!

tim
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-01-28 3:12 PM (#196470 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Kewl Tim, thanx for the kind words, when I first started playing live for myself I was looking at a passport system and I remember them not sounding bad at all, but then again I have learned alot more since then. However you might wanna check out Carvin's small pa gear,... its factory direct and I am on my second Pa upgrade through them. all I can do is sing the praises of their reliability,the cost factor, and craftsmanship. ITS ALL GOOD.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-28 3:16 PM (#196471 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Thanks Billy...

I'll go look on their website... just remember that the audiance I usually play for quite often isn't aware that I'm there... and they don't remember that I WAS there...

tim
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alpep
Posted 2004-01-28 4:19 PM (#196472 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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well I have a HK lucas systems which is a powered subwoofer with 2 satillettes and you need a monitor. I won that at the Namm show a few years back. I love it the thing sounds great. (I then sold my bose 800's to miles)

I have a friend that has a Peewee system and well it is ok and realiable he now uses a mackie powered mixer(I just do not like the lay out of mackie stuff as My departed old man would say 1 2b of sh*t in a 1 lb bag)

the jbl eon series stuff is really nice. Fender has a system that is basically the same as the samick I would not be surprised if they are made in the same factory.

there are many choices out there. I prefer something with a subwoofer because I really thing your lows suffer without. it.

good luck
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-01-28 6:51 PM (#196473 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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In most cases if it's just guitar and vocals a sub is pretty much redundant.What a sub adds in those circumstances is in my opinion pretty subtle and not worth the ball-ache of the extra lump to carry around. With the HK LUCAS, which is a great system, the satellites are so small they really depend on the sub, but full range speakers such as JBL Eons, Mackie SRM 450's and several others are pretty efficient for short to medium-throw applications down to around 50Hz, which is way below the 82Hz of a 6th string. If you put bass guitar into the PA, mic the drums or have a voice like Harry Shearer in the Folksmen, then a sub is essential
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alpep
Posted 2004-01-28 8:18 PM (#196474 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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IMHO it ain't kustom if it ain't tuck and roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-01-28 8:35 PM (#196475 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Hey Tim,... maybe you could sneak away with a few of their happy pills lol,... j/k
Then you wouldnt care if you were there.
No really I think its kewl that you do that for the old folks i bet you bring alot of them happiness
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-29 7:33 AM (#196476 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Billy,

Thanks for the encouragement (about the playing, not the pills)!

It is always a thrill to see the almost blank stares turn into joy when we play for them. To be able to make them forget where they are, even for 45-minutes is quite a blessing!

It is so sad, but these dear folks are really the homeless. Sure, they have a place to stay and food/care, but their families are either gone or too busy to visit; their friends are usually dead; their homes are gone and they have others controlling their lives.

I would encourage ALL of the members of the OFC to visit a Convalescent Home near you and volunteer to play/sing/dance (whatever you do) for the Residents. The Management would be thrilled and so would the Residents! It will be one of the finest gigs you ever have!

One big plus is that when they throw things at you in disapproval, you have plenty of time to move out of the way!

tim
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willard
Posted 2004-01-29 8:22 AM (#196477 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Tim,
What kind of tunes do you play for them?
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-29 8:28 AM (#196478 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Because this is an outreach Ministry of my Church, we play the Old Hymns... Sweet By And By, Old Rugged Cross, Amazing Grace, Power In The Blood (W/6-string banjo!) those types of songs.

They would also appreciate some of "their" songs from the 20's, 30's or 40's.

We also try to include "seasonal" songs... we had a full Christmas program last Christmas and sang/played about 15 Christmas sing-along favorites. They loved it! It's amazing to lookout at them as we play and see them mouthing the words remembered from long ago and far away!

tim
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Billy Blaze
Posted 2004-01-29 9:06 AM (#196479 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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lol @Tim, I think I may check into it Tim, if I can make a little time it would be a kind thing to do.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-29 9:22 AM (#196480 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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kewl!

tim
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Woz
Posted 2004-01-30 1:29 PM (#196481 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Hi Tim:
I have this "profile" Kustom system. I like the portability. I use it as my amp and really like the options it gives me. It is a pup. Don't ask it to fill a cafateria. That said, it is everything I could ask for.

I will bring it to the tour visit. It can set up and fill the small bar that we drank at last year. No problem. Think of it as a small amp that is flexable.
Woz
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-30 1:53 PM (#196482 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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Woz,

Please check your email...

tim
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alpep
Posted 2004-01-30 1:58 PM (#196483 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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tim
because of the age of the songs you sing you should consider a old shure vocalmaster
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-01-30 2:04 PM (#196484 - in reply to #196462)
Subject: Re: Portable PA Systems


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sing..... hmmm I've been asked (quite often in fact) not to sing... once I was humming a song in Church and my wife turned to me and asked me "why are you grunting?".... :confused:

so, for me microphones don't matter.... although I agree that the equipment age should match the era of the songs played through them! Perhaps just a small megaphone like Rudy Vallee used?

tim
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