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stonebobbo
Posted 2004-02-02 11:30 AM (#196019)
Subject: Black & Tan?



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Huh?? I know it's a great concept for a pub quaff, but I'm not sure I get it on a guitar. Check it out:

Half-Spruce/Half-Cedar

Anyone know of these? Anyone play one?
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cliff
Posted 2004-02-02 11:37 AM (#196020 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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I'll stick to the pub quaff.
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peterbright
Posted 2004-02-02 11:40 AM (#196021 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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Location: On the beach in Southwest Florida
It's a first for me. I'd like to know how it sounds.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-02-02 11:52 AM (#196022 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?



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Location: Phoenix AZ
I think it's a Michael Jackson Elite. DW
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Goober
Posted 2004-02-02 12:17 PM (#196023 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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Location: Athens, GA & Gnashville
Pretty cool.....in an odd sort of way. I guess the cedar gives it a softer, more feminine side!
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-02-02 12:33 PM (#196024 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?



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The model number suggests it is a one-off or special order. I have certainly never seen one of those or even heard of one. Rather strange....
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samova
Posted 2004-02-02 3:32 PM (#196025 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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I remeber Bill Kaman owning two of these.They were made for the German dist. or for a German dealer..not for the American market...Bill will remeber the "rest of the story"
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-02-02 4:42 PM (#196026 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
I remember seeing this on Elderly's website a few weeks ago and wondered what the story on it was...I kinda figured the "X" meant it was something special.

By the way....it is SOLD...Elderly doesn't have it any more.....

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
1981 Ovation 1118-1 Glen Campbell 12-string
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Celebrity CC01 Spruce Top 6-String
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-02-02 5:15 PM (#196027 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?



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Sam,

Thanks for that information.

One of the things I love about this site is that I learn something new just about every time I log on.
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Bailey
Posted 2004-02-03 2:24 AM (#196028 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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stonebobo

I would not have believed it if Sam hadn't confirmed it. Raises so many questions, Why? Why? Why? Definately one of a kind, but why?
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Nils
Posted 2004-02-03 2:29 AM (#196029 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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Location: Central Oregon
Maybe it was put together like Johnny Cash's Caddy? :)

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cms-man
Posted 2004-02-03 4:12 PM (#196030 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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Location: The Shop
If I remember right, We were trying that combo. to see if we could get more sound from the top. The idea being that the cedar would vibrate more more. I didnt know that ant made it out to the public! looks cool but was way hard to build.
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Beal
Posted 2004-02-03 8:33 PM (#196031 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?



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It was done for fun. Actually I saw the idea in a book about Danny Ferrington, he'd done it for one of his Niel Finn and thought we should try it. Two were made, one with bass cedar and treble spruce and the other was the other way. They were interesting but nothing overly special. They never got sold and when they showed up on my door step in Fla I sent them on to Elderly.
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peterbright
Posted 2004-02-03 8:48 PM (#196032 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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Mystery solved. Why was it difficult to do?
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Beal
Posted 2004-02-04 7:58 PM (#196033 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?



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It wasn't difficult, it just really didn't do much so why bother? Does make for interesting conversation 10 years after though.
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cms-man
Posted 2004-02-05 3:09 PM (#196034 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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It wasn't difficult for you Bill cause you didnt have to try and put a neck angle on two different types of wood! That neck angle was damn near immpossible. If I remember right the first one took me two tops to get it right.You were always throwing us curve balls. I can still remember when we got the order, We were like " What the hell,he wants cedar on one side and spruce on the other" ? Hey it is not just a job it is an adventure.
Cms-man
B778T-black(custom)
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cliff
Posted 2004-02-05 3:18 PM (#196035 - in reply to #196019)
Subject: Re: Black & Tan?


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". . . it's good to be King . . ." ;)
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