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ClassicRocker
Posted 2004-03-08 1:45 PM (#192784)
Subject: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Many moons ago playing live, I used a Lawrence Sound Hole Pickup on my 1127-4. Don't remember the Model #...don't know where it is anymore...dag nabbit!
I want to get a new Pickup...preferably a Sound Hole.
My Producer has recommended a Fishman Rare Earth.
What do ya'll suggest in your experience and humble opinion is the best overall sounding Pickup for Ovations I can get on the market today for my 1127-4?

Secondly...I have been using D'Addario J16 Phospher Bronze/Light Strings for years now on my 1127-4.
They sound great but I was curious what ya'll think.
Any suggestions about a potentially better sounding set of strings for my Ovation?

Lookin' forward to your expert ideas!
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cliff
Posted 2004-03-08 1:54 PM (#192785 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Don't know about soundhole pickups (don't use 'em) but you won't get a better recommendation on the strings from me, 'cause you're using the exact same ones I've been using for years.
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alpep
Posted 2004-03-08 2:00 PM (#192786 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Location: NJ
lace sensor pickup
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ClassicRocker
Posted 2004-03-08 2:03 PM (#192787 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Copy that Cliff...love those strings right?

I gather you always use an external mic when playing live?

Thanks!
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cliff
Posted 2004-03-08 2:06 PM (#192788 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Dude . . . it's a fucking O - VAAAY - TION!!!! :D
You can "plug 'em in", . . . remember?? :D
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ClassicRocker
Posted 2004-03-08 2:10 PM (#192789 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Alpep...the Lace Acoustic Bronze Series.
Just checked it out on the web.
What's your take? Beats others hands down?
Thanks!
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MWoody
Posted 2004-03-08 2:10 PM (#192790 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question



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I found my old Lawrence sound hole pickup while doing some pre-pre-spring cleaning. Have these gone the way of 45's or are they still "OK"?

It was handy going between guitars.
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ClassicRocker
Posted 2004-03-08 2:18 PM (#192791 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Ahhhh...Acoustics with Electronics built in...NOW I remember...or do I?

Cliff...duh on me bro...you see...mine does not have that ability...no electronics...so I don't even think with that data...plugging in that is.

It has always been Mics & Pickups for me in the Studio and Live.

BTW...nice Jersey Style response!
:p
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ClassicRocker
Posted 2004-03-08 2:24 PM (#192792 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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MWoody...Lawrences...very handy pickups...put it in...take it out...at will.
That's what I loved about it.
Hmmm...sounds a little nasty! :D

I'd love to know if the new generation of Lawrences are still as sexy as in the '70s.
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cliff
Posted 2004-03-08 2:27 PM (#192793 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Y'mean like VICKIE Lawrence?? . . she never really did it for me.
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Norseman1
Posted 2004-03-08 2:30 PM (#192794 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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I use a Lawrence soundholew/volume control in my 1117 Legend. I added a lapel mic clipped to the inside bracing. Sounds good for little money.

Iagree with your string selection, except I like mediums. Martin Phos.B. SP's are verrrrry nice too!

Norse(JMHO)man1
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ClassicRocker
Posted 2004-03-08 2:52 PM (#192795 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Oh Cliff..you funny guy!

Maybe Vicky never really did it for you because she wouldn't do it with you! :(

Norseman...good to hear someone is still actively using the "Vicky" Lawrence.
As for the strings...my Producer suggested that I switch to the Martins.Phos.Bs. I'll have to try them out now. I still like the Lights...just that much easier to bend for lead work...and easier on the fingers...for me at least.
When you said Lapel Mic...you mean a Lavalier?
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alpep
Posted 2004-03-08 4:24 PM (#192796 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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the lace pickup I have was just a stick it in the sound hole type. I think it is about 3 years old. I think it sounds awesome. not sure about the bronze one.
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45flint
Posted 2004-03-08 5:01 PM (#192797 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Location: Wooster, Ohio
I have used a Fishman rare earth on several guitars, not any Ovations and it is a very good pickup.
Steve Kitchen
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-03-08 6:13 PM (#192798 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Location: Scotland
The Rare Earth pickups were originally called Mimesis. They were designed in Scotland by Mike Vanden who licensed them to Fishman. I have a couple of them, they are among the best soundhole magnetics on the market. The Sunrise is better, in fact it's absolutely the best magnetic available, but it's a lot more expensive. I heard the new Baggs magnetic at NAMM & was impressed enough that I'm going to buy one when I'm in the USA in a couple of weeks.

http://www.lrbaggs.com/html/products/pickups_m1.shtml

http://www.sunrisepickups.com/


The trick with magnetic pickups is to use nickel strings, regardless of any claims by the manufacturer that the pickup will work with bronze
strings. I prefer piezo's for regular guitar, but for slide I always use a magnetic.
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Beal
Posted 2004-03-08 8:13 PM (#192799 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question



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Location: 6 String Ranch
there's a bunch of pickups that would be fine mentioned here.

the J16 strings are great. The Adamas 1818 is equal, like they say, six of one, two dozen of the other.
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Sonny
Posted 2004-03-08 8:30 PM (#192800 - in reply to #192784)
Subject: Re: Sound Hole Pickups & Strings Question


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Location: Seattle
Played the Baggs M-1 at Namm. Without a doubt the most amazing sound-hole pickup I've ever played. It actually picks up sound from the top. Don't know how... but it does and without feedback. If it's not on the market yet it soon will be.
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