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Norseman1
Posted 2004-03-11 2:50 PM (#192555)
Subject: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az.
I've found my Kyser 12 capo a little weak in capoing on the first and second frets. I thought I would try the Bird of Paradise I heard so much about. I had to reaslly crank her down hard to get a clear tone..... After about three weeks of use, I found it wasn't able to keep pressure. I noted that the plastic ridges that hold the capo in place were worn smooth, AND the main "plastic" hinge that holds the two pieces together was totally worn down to a nub, holding nothing in place.

Can't find a Shubb in town, as I hear they are the way to go. My old Dunlop strap capo works the best, but I worry about it actually constricting too tight (as one notch less, is waay too weak).

I know my Pacemaker can handle the stress of concert pitch, but my voice can't! I tune everytrhing down a step... actually I tune it off key as well, so when I sing off-key, everything blends in nicely!

Norse(still lovin my Pacemaker Troby!!!!)man1
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-03-11 2:57 PM (#192556 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Posts: 648

Location: Florida
Dunlop spring loaded - always works, but its a little large and heavy.
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-03-11 2:58 PM (#192557 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Yucaipa, California
I had a Kyser 12 and found it not only too flimsy, but too short for the width of my Balladeer neck... I switched to the Shubb 12 and it is perfect. I now have 2-six string shubbs, 1-12 string and 1-(forgive me) banjo shubb... I use the Kysers for hanging up the laundry!


Check with Al.... they are worth it!

tim
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seesquare
Posted 2004-03-11 3:01 PM (#192558 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
I realize I'm not one to talk, but could you please post an image of your 1115? I have more than a casual interest, as I have an 1115 project in the works. Is it a natural, or sunburst.
OK, I promise, I WILL get the 1127 & Phoenix images posted, i.e., the check's in the mail....trust me.....really.......
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Norseman1
Posted 2004-03-11 3:09 PM (#192559 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az.
seesquare,

Are you refering to my Pacemaker? I don't have it in front of me (it's at home, and I'm at work, I can't decide where I want it more, and the commute was a little difficult keeping it strapped to me the first week I owned it, so I've been weaned for 8 hour periods!) but I don't think it's a 1115. It is natural in tone. You can see a pic. of it in Trboy's gallery. I'm working on getting an updated gallery that will show it as well.

Norse(Whatever happened to Gordon Lightfoot? why doesn't he record anymore?)man1
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cliff
Posted 2004-03-11 3:11 PM (#192560 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: NJ
Norsey;

You can order one directly from Shubb's website.
(That's how I got mine).
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Norseman1
Posted 2004-03-11 3:24 PM (#192561 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az.
I'll check into that Cliff. Besides, the local music store owner wouldn't help me out with the birdie... along with some problems with the guitars I bought for my students (high quality Johnson's...whatcha expect right?!). He kinda has this town over a barrel for music supplies.

Norse(Factory Direct)man1
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-03-11 3:32 PM (#192562 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost



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Location: Minden, Nebraska
"Amen!" to Shubb capoes. I keep one in the case of every one of my playing Ovations.

And for the movie trivia fans among us, "... Many Shubbs and Zools knew what it was to suffer in the belly of a Slor that day, I can tell you."
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Paul Wag
Posted 2004-03-11 3:36 PM (#192563 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Fort Worth, Texas
"A Clockwork Orange"?
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cliff
Posted 2004-03-11 3:39 PM (#192564 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: NJ
"Ghostbusters".
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Paul Wag
Posted 2004-03-11 3:54 PM (#192565 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Fort Worth, Texas
I'm the Keymaster...
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TRboy
Posted 2004-03-11 4:16 PM (#192566 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost



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"Smokey and the Bandit"..............


.......Btw - Norsey's Pacemaker is a 1615-4
****


Tr(little "Norsey" says "Hello!!!")boy :D
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seesquare
Posted 2004-03-11 4:37 PM (#192567 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
OK, Norsey, I stand corrected. It's a 1615- "plug it in". Nice critter, by the way. I really like the natural color; I may opt for that in the repairs. Thanks!
"Fenqueman, you never studied....."
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2004-03-11 5:15 PM (#192568 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Posts: 1922

Location: Canton (Detroit), MI
I've been using a Kyser capo on both of my 12-strings and have had no trouble at all. Maybe in a few months when the spring gets weaker?????

Roger

1976 Applause AA14-4 6-String
1981 Ovation 1118-1 Glen Campbell 12-string
2001 Adamas 1598-MERB Melissa Etheridge 12-String
2003 Ovation 1777-NAT Legend 6-string
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2004-03-11 5:42 PM (#192569 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Warren,Pa.
I switched from a Keyser to a Schubb for my CL 12 string some time ago...needed a stronger clamp. I do have a Q though: How do you guys get any capo to hold down the high octave strings on the bass side of the neck? I thought of cutting notches in the plastis where the fatter bass strings hit. Right now those little strings next to those fat strings just kind of get muted a little. And what about Gordon Lightfoot anyway?????????? John.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-03-11 5:45 PM (#192570 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost



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Location: Minden, Nebraska
Cliff and Paul Wag get the movie trivia prize, which I think is Norseman's Bird of Paradise capo.
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seesquare
Posted 2004-03-11 6:48 PM (#192571 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Pacific Northwest Inland Empire
I may be promulgating false info, but I believe Gordon had some heart problems recently. Doesn't he have a website, or fan club?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-03-11 7:23 PM (#192572 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: SoCal
In 2002 Lightfoot had a near-fatal abdominal hemorrhage that required major surgery. He's still facing some more but is expected to recover.
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Norseman1
Posted 2004-03-12 7:57 AM (#192573 - in reply to #192555)
Subject: Re: Bird of Paradise...Lost


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Location: Back in the Valley of the Sun Mesa Az.
Sorry to hear that about Lightfoot Paul.

O.K., I'll be sending half my capo to Cliff, half to Paul W. Now, who gets heads, and who gets tails?!

That just don't sound right now that I read it :eek:

Norse(tweet tweet)man1
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