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Why isn't Willie helping Neil sing this one?

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OldLiverJones
Posted 2008-11-09 3:33 AM (#12802)
Subject: Why isn't Willie helping Neil sing this one?


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRPwfMikFdI
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flackster
Posted 2008-11-09 4:06 AM (#12803 - in reply to #12802)
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Looking forward for when he sings down in Melbourne in January - bought tickets 4 weeks ago.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-11-09 9:47 AM (#12804 - in reply to #12802)
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Shouldn't you just be Thankful?
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mhaanpaa
Posted 2008-11-09 11:05 AM (#12805 - in reply to #12802)
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Saw him in Reno last Saturday. It was one of the best concerts I've been to. Neils voice is better than ever and the song choices were great.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-09 2:41 PM (#12806 - in reply to #12802)
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Neil Young is one of those performers that you either love or hate. I've tried to listen to him over the years and he's like fingers on a chalk board to me.

As for Willie, I saw him in the summer of 2007. He doesn't really sing any more. He seems more to recite the lyrics. Still good, but not what it used to be.....
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mhaanpaa
Posted 2008-11-09 2:46 PM (#12807 - in reply to #12802)
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This tour bears that out. If you enjoy him he's doing the same things he's done for years better than ever, however he's not likely to win over new fans.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-11-09 3:07 PM (#12808 - in reply to #12802)
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Originally posted by OldLiverJones:
Why isn't Willie helping Neil sing this one?
That is a sound normally used only to keep crickets from procreating.

I like them both, but together would be like mixing single malt scotch and red wine in one glass; a waste of two good things to make a bad.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-11-09 3:12 PM (#12809 - in reply to #12802)
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That's a pretty bad version IMO and I think he's got his wife on there playing and singing as well which doesn't help.

He does a very good studio version of that song with Nicolette Larson (Emmylou Harris might be on it too). Anyway, that version is really good and Young's voice works well for the empty sort of winter feeling in the song.

Those guys (CSN and Young) were so full of their own hype though that a lot of their music doesn't stand up anymore IMO anyway; and looking back maybe it never did.

That said though, Young has done a lot of good stuff but an awful lot of crap too and I've since found song writers who have more to say more effectively about the ideas that Young was just dancing around with because maybe he'd never actually lived it preferring instead to swipe other people's influences and get juiced..lol
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flackster
Posted 2008-11-09 4:41 PM (#12810 - in reply to #12802)
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The thing I can't figure out is that he is one of the headline acts at a gig called Big Day Out that travels all around the capitals of Oz. It is aimed at 16-30yo's with rock and dance bands :confused:
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an4340
Posted 2008-11-09 10:35 PM (#12811 - in reply to #12802)
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That's such a classic song. The kid's'll love him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAhg3Ge7TFM

PS Check out the roto speaker.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-11-09 10:56 PM (#12812 - in reply to #12802)
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Originally posted by flacky:
The thing I can't figure out is that he is one of the headline acts at a gig called Big Day Out that travels all around the capitals of Oz. It is aimed at 16-30yo's with rock and dance bands :confused:
Hey! Neil is Cool. Where else can the young'uns go out to a concert with their parents and get high with Mom & Dad?

And I can go out with the Vegan Starbucks crowd...
See a few 60 year-old chicks with rainbow tattoos...
[and wonder what the world is coming to... :eek: ]
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flackster
Posted 2008-11-10 4:27 AM (#12813 - in reply to #12802)
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What would you you guys pay for a ticket to see him over there? $119 sitting on the grass here :cool: (Not the smoking type LOL )
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-10 4:47 AM (#12814 - in reply to #12802)
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Originally posted by an4340:


PS Check out the roto speaker.
I believe that's a Leslie cabinet facing backwards. Neil always looks like he's in pain when he's singing.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-11-10 11:31 AM (#12815 - in reply to #12802)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
Originally posted by an4340:
[qb] Neil always looks like he's in pain when he's singing.
Yeah, he had polio when he was very young - he said that one side of him feels like it's somewhere else because of it.

He used to suffer from epilepsy as well and had seizures on stage quite a bit during his early days.

So he's never been in the best of health. If you watch him keeping time when he's playing sitting down he looks a bit spastic sometimes.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-11-10 11:41 AM (#12816 - in reply to #12802)
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Originally posted by flacky:
What would you you guys pay for a ticket to see him over there?
Vancouver Sun
Published: Monday, August 18, 2008

Music icon Neil Young and his band will perform at GM Place Oct. 22. Wilco and Death Cab for Cutie are slated to open. Tickets, $48 to $248, go on sale Friday, 10 a.m. at Ticketmaster.
That's where I would have had to go. Unfortunately, life was too busy at the time.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-11-10 11:53 AM (#12817 - in reply to #12802)
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He's at The Socialist Republic of Toronto on December 4. Most expensive seats are $439.00

No way I would pay that much - even $100.00 is too much IMO.

http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/buy/neilyoung_tickets.htm?pid=90...
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mhaanpaa
Posted 2008-11-10 12:48 PM (#12818 - in reply to #12802)
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I paid $80 for general admission in Reno. It was $180 if you wanted a seat. With Death Cab, who I like as well, I thought it was worth it.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-11-10 1:08 PM (#12819 - in reply to #12802)
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Sometimes when you pay for a ticket you gotta consider the whole package. Usually a single act just ain't worth it.
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flackster
Posted 2008-11-10 4:52 PM (#12820 - in reply to #12802)
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I am really looking forward to seeing him - tried to get better seating tickets through Ticketmaster but 5 secs after they opened there werre none available - go figure.

Steve Earle is here at the moment doing small venues and tickets sold out before I even knew they were for sale...
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-11-10 5:48 PM (#12821 - in reply to #12802)
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The scalpers have computer programs that buy those tickets up.

That could easily be fixed, but Ticketmaster don't care cuz they are getting their money...
Plus, Their Fees.
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flackster
Posted 2008-11-10 5:55 PM (#12822 - in reply to #12802)
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Aha - that would explain it. We have Ticketmaster & Ticketek down here and there are always complaints about Ticketmaster being pricier, less available etc etc. I guess you need to go to an office and buy 'off the plan'.

That is one of the reasons i like going to smaller venues with door sales
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an4340
Posted 2008-11-10 10:40 PM (#12823 - in reply to #12802)
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I love neil young, but that's too much.
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flackster
Posted 2008-11-10 10:56 PM (#12824 - in reply to #12802)
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You should have tried buying tickets for The Eagles or Fleetwood Mac!!! :rolleyes:

Led Zeppelin for $30 in '72 was great value looking back now :D :D :D
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-11-10 11:13 PM (#12825 - in reply to #12802)
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My best value concert of all time was in 1977: Fleetwood Mac, Santana, Little River Band, Kevin Borich Express and a very forgetable Japanese band (Creation) all for the princely sum of $12.50, or about the price of two albums!! AND it was a fantastic concert.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2008-11-10 11:19 PM (#12826 - in reply to #12802)
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I don't remember exactly what I paid for tickets in the 70s but it was never remarkably high for good seats even when we bought them from scalpers.

Seems like a real rip off now though and what Arthur was saying about the computer sales and Ticketmaster having the ability to fix that but doing nothing about it really ties in nicely with the idea that people are just seen as targets to be scammed by these jokers..lol
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