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Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle

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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-04-13 11:17 AM (#190005)
Subject: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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Ok,
I have a few tricks for getting the rattle out of an amp chassis when I've had to, but my tricks aren't working this time.
I have a trace acoustic amp. It's a GREAT amp. I initially thought I had a bad speaker because of a rattle type sound I was getting, but it turns out, it's just the faceplate/chassis rattling. It's a one piece chassis that has the amp and speakers all attached to it. Outside of the little wood box, it sounds great, silent, no rattle. As soon as I put any screws on the front to secure it, it rattles. I have tried my velcro strips solution which has worked on fenders in the past but this is a 5" and 1/2" strip of wood on each side, that the panel screws to. Frankly, with all that metal to wood surface, less than 1/4" from the speakers, I can't imagine it ever not rattling. This is just driving me nuts.
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cliff
Posted 2004-04-13 11:48 AM (#190006 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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Location: NJ
Is the little logo affixed securely to the grille?
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-04-13 12:55 PM (#190007 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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It's not the grill. I have had it apart to find the culprit and it is the chassis against the wood it secures to. I can actually just back off the screws that hold it in place and it goes silent. Unfortunately, the faceplate and grill screws also assist in securing the chassis in. If I leave those screws loose too, well, that's just not doable.
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CharlieB
Posted 2004-04-13 1:34 PM (#190008 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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Location: Florida
Weather strip insertion time
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MWoody
Posted 2004-04-13 1:47 PM (#190009 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle



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Location: Upper Left USA
I was going to ask if any of these tecniques are taboo:

Weather strip or double back 3M tape between members.

Elmer's wood glue and sawdust into the screw holes/insert screws 3/4 and reseat after drying.

RTV (white or clear) between members.

Lock-Tite for all threaded fasteners.
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viking
Posted 2004-04-13 1:52 PM (#190010 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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Location: new jersey
We had a problem with the jacks input and output jacks it was on a Crate could it be them
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2004-04-13 1:57 PM (#190011 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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Mwoody and CharlieB, those were the things I am curios about. Just wondered if anyone had a "preferred method". I tried the fuzzy part of velcro, but that didn't quite do it. I was also thinking of a silicone bead on the mounting surface figuring it would fill whatever was rattling.
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Standingovation
Posted 2004-04-13 2:58 PM (#190012 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle



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Miles, Try this - remove the screws and insert a toothpick into the screwholes. Break off the toothpick part that sticks out. Re-insert screws. I have done this on pickguards, truss rod covers, etc. and it works great. Dave
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Nils
Posted 2004-04-13 3:43 PM (#190013 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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Originally posted by Standingovation:
Miles, Try this - remove the screws and insert a toothpick into the screwholes. Break off the toothpick part that sticks out. Re-insert screws. I have done this on pickguards, truss rod covers, etc. and it works great. Dave


Dip the toothpick in a little wood glue first & it will work even better. Wipe off any excess with a damp cloth before it dries.

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CharlieB
Posted 2004-04-13 4:28 PM (#190014 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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Having overhauled quite a few amps in my day, my preferred method is the ol' home depot weatherstrip, thickness, width and firmness to match the space you got to squeeze it in.

I even have some neat rubber backed dome washers if you wanna try those (send me an email on that). I use those now as standard behind all speaker mounting nuts.
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alpep
Posted 2004-04-13 7:05 PM (#190015 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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I'll buy the amp back from you at 1/4 the price since it is now "damaged"


reminds me of a story.
I went into mars and tried their swr amps since I was looking for a lightweight bass amp for rehearsals for the lovely and talented suzipep.
every one I turned on hissed. The kid asked me if I wanted to try them and what was I doing. I told him I was checking them for hiss. He said, "it does not matter when you play in a band anyway" I asked him what I was to do if I wanted to record. He had no reply
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-04-13 7:53 PM (#190016 - in reply to #190005)
Subject: Re: Finding and Fixing and Amp rattle


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There you have it! Those kind of business ethics is probably why mars is no longer in business. Maybe they should try to Honest and helpful Like AL. They'd Still Have stores if they did.
Of course the upside is that's one less Big Box store you have to worry about.
" Not going to matter if you play in a band"
Give Me a BREAK!! :eek:
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