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| Hello folks, new Adamas w597, Love the guitar!!I play Mostly jazz styles lead fills in church praise type music. This guitar is very versatile. I have been using 11-46 blue steel with a slightly higher action and find it has a great tone and feel all the way up the neck. The heavier guage strings dont seem as responsive up the neck , I like heavier on my L7. I digress
QUESTION: I modified an xlr cable as described and it works, however it is very sensitive to touch where it plugs into the guitar. It pops badly if I bump it. Is this normal or is something up.I Like to use it as it wont drain the battery.
Is any one else playing jazz with an adamas?
Any way this was a great investment, well worth the price
later
kyle
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Kyle,
I had a similar problem with the XLR on my Custom Legend. The first cord went bad in a week and the second one lasted about 2 months and finally failed on Palm Sunday in the middle of a show. Both were, I thought, good solder jobs so I'm not sure what happened. I thought about getting the offical Ovation patch cord but have decided to just use a regular guitar cord. You still need a battery in the guitar but it lasts much longer. Another solution is to use a regular mic cord and just plug a dummy 1/4" jack in. That activates the pre amp the same way the modified cord does. |
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| interesting, had kind of came to a similar conclusion, pity though. I will keep a dummy plug handy so I can plug into a sysyem direct if I need to, but just use a good regular cable otherwise
thx much
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | Kyle,
The third option is to use phantom power from the PA sysetm. |
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Location: Florida | Hmmmm. Well you might want to try putting quality ends on the cable you have, such as those really nice Amphenol connectors. |
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Location: Florida | Upon thinking of "the problem" of the noisey XLR connectors... I better check mine out. |
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Location: North Carolina | The exact same thing happened to me when I did the ground-to-shell modification on an XLR plug. I redid it and it happened again. I then got the official Ovation plug and it did it also. I am now using a dummy plug in the 1/4 inch jack to activate the pre-amp along with a regular phantom-powered XLR and the problem is gone. I never understood what was going on but it sounds like a lot of people are having this problem.
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Location: Netherlands | ...weird. I plug mine in without a modified cable, using phantom power without a dummy plug and it works fine.
Seems there are two versions of the xlr wiring around? -sounds familiar, may have been discussed before.
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Location: North Carolina | Martin,
As I understand it, the XLR jack has to be activated with either a dummy plug or a ground-to-shell modified XLR. Without either of these, the pre-amp will be powered by the 9volt battery. It could be that your set-up is working off of the battery and your phantom power isn't really doing anything. Have you tried taking the battery out and seeing if it still works with just a normal XLR and no dummy plug?
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Location: Madison, Wisconsin | I think you may have it backwards Franklin. Seems I remember that the modified XLR or the dummy plug activates the preamp to use the 9V battery. I think that if you have phantom power, you don't need either of these. Any comments from the folks that really know? |
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Location: Scotland | On the Optima you don't need the ground to shell mod, it'll accept phantom power using any standard XLR cable. If you want to use the balanced Lo-z output to go into a mic-level XLR input where phantom power isn't available the dummy plug is needed to switch on the battery & power the pre. If you use phantom power the battery is needed for the tuner only.
The same applies to the Op50 (and presumably the XLR-equipped OP-pro) except that you need either the Ovation cable or a ground-to-shell short modded cable. If you can get phantom power to the pre-amp then you don't need the dummy plug |
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Location: Netherlands | Paul, that explains. I have an Optima.
Franklin: since I use phantom power I never have a battery in my guitar.
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Location: Warren,Pa. | But phantom power doesn't go to the tuner. It only goes to the preamp. If you don't have a battery in your guitar, the tuner won't work. John. |
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Location: Netherlands | I have an Adamas, once tuned, they don't detune. :D
But seriously, a battery is drained empty within a week, even when it's not plugged in, so i only put one in the compartiment for gigs or tuning.
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Location: Scotland | Martin, it sounds like you have a short at the output jack, which is causing the battery to be on constantly. I get months out of mine on both the Optima & Op50 |
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Location: Florida | Ditto - I'm still on my original battery from January. |
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Location: Netherlands | Thnx, I'll check.
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Location: Netherlands | I checked,
nothing wrong. I measured the impedance over the + and - poles of the battery compartiment, seems to be infinite. (if there would be a short there woulld be an ohmage.
also there are no problems when using a non-balanced jack cable, and there would be if there was a short. I dunno, anybody else any good ideas?
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xlr noise ?, love my new Adamas!
