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Location: 6 String Ranch | What's a good mic for sticking in front of the sound hole? I was told get a condensor mic.
Which one? any suggestions? mostly for live performances if that makes a difference but it would b3e nice if it recorded well too. If not I'll have to get one of each and what then? |
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Location: Tennessee | It's not a condensor mic, but it's hard to go wrong with a Shure SM57. Cheap, industructible, and used on stage and in studios everywhere. |
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Location: Agawam MA | Ditto,
I have 2 of those that are still going strong after 30 years.
God bless,
Steve |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Shure SM57
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Location: closely held secret | And much better in a live situation. |
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Location: big island | the only thing about using vocal mics for guitar is that you need to stay fairly still. if you move around much while playing the listeners will hear your volume dropping in and out. small diaphragm condensers (pencil mics) work best. |
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Location: Scotland | Not anymore. The 57 was good in it's day but that was just because condenser mikes were stupidly expensive by comparison. Times have changed and now really good condenser mikes are readily available and very afforable.
Bill, check your email. |
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Location: big island | paul, what does your "not anymore" refer to? |
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Location: Scotland | It was in response to Bobbo's "it's hard to go wrong with a 57" That was the case for decades, but there's a ton of better (and cheaper) product out there now. The microphone market is incredibly competitive. Shure had it sown up for a long time, but those days are long gone. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Paul - what would you recommend in the same price range as the Shure? |
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Location: Jet City | I have a MXL 990 which is cheap and seems to get a much better sound for both vocals and guitar than the 57 I had. |
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Location: East Wenatchee, WA | I bought a pair of AT2020's that are cheap and do a great job. Not as good in a live situation I think, as they feedback more than my dynamic mic's.
With my old EV's and amp it wasn't much of an issue, but with the Bose L1 PAS, they don't like condensers as much. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by CrimsonLake:
Paul - what would you recommend in the same price range as the Shure? For about a hundred bucks you can get an Audio Techica AT2020, which is a superb large diaphragm condenser microphone. There are ton of others. Some of the lesser known brands are amazing. There is one particular Taiwanese factory that produces OEM under a ton of off-brand names and they are killer.
It's horses for courses. If I wanted to mic a guitar amp or a snare drum I'd use an SM57. For acoustic instruments dynamic mics do not have the sensitivity or frequency response. Condenser mics, large or small diapragm are fine live, as long as the sound engineer is up to the job.
By the way JD, a large diaphragm condenser in front of an L1 is probably a little ambitious. |
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Location: Scotland | Edit: double-post |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Thanks Paul, No email yet but I'll look into the 2020 |
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Location: Scotland | For acoustic guitar in a live stiuation the AT3031 would be a better bet. |
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Location: Indiana | 2 more cents.
Paul's right. You do still see plenty of 57's in studio use... but mostly for snare and cab micing.
Not acoustic instruments.
A condenser is the way to go and, again, as Paul said, the choices are plentiful today.
My recommendation would be a small diaphragm condenser. Look for a matched pair if you want to play around with stereo placing. |
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Location: Chicago | Anyone ever work with an AKG? When I'm not using my Zoom H4 I use an AKG C3000B that gives good sound. Here is a demo I shared with Moody P.I.: It's the unplugged "Lullaby" from My "Social" Page Playslit. |
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Location: Scotland | I have 6 AKG 414's. By far my favourite microphone ever. Amazingly versatile but stupidly expensive by current standards, but you get what you pay for. For live work the AKG C1000S used to be one of the best small diaphragm back-electrets, bet then Rode came along with the NT3 and kicked it's ass. |
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Location: Indiana | NT3 would be a great choice. So is the workhorse C1000.
Problem with large D's like the C3000 and AT2020, especially since Bill mentioned live performance, is low end feedback. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | AEA R84 but not cheap. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | An AKG 1000 is nearly perfect , however , it `s phantompower can be derived from a battery incorporated in it`s own housing , causing it to sound " sterile " , with phantom -power fed from a mixing -console , things " warm -up " more , as it is , TWO (2 ) mics. , can make a better overall sound.
On stage use , for amplifying acoustic guitar , the following are rather successfull :
The Best !! ( imho ) attachable to any ACOUSTIC guitar :
http://www.seelectronics.com/GM10.html
You `d be surprised how well it works , and comfortable too !
Next , for anything and everything , the most neutral mic. of all :
http://www.akg.com/site/products/powerslave,id,262,pid,262,nodeid,2...
Vic
..I still have not discovered how to post pictures , so you `ll have to make do with links , Sorry ... :) |
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Location: Round Rock, TX | I like the Rode NT5 small condenser. You can get a matched pair off eBay in the $200-250 price range |
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | Surely condensor mics are known to be the best mics for acoustic guitar. Perhaps a matched pair of Rode NT1As (large diaphram) or a small diaphram AKG C1000s. |
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Location: Scotland | The C1000 is not a true condenser mic. It's a back-electret design meaning that the capacitor (condenser) is charged at manufacture. This charge will weaken over time and eventually dissipate completely, making the mic useless unless the capsule is replaced. It can take a long time to do this but I know of a few cases where this has happened to C1000s and SM87's. True condensers are externaly biased, which means the capsule is charged from their power supply each time they are used, and don't suffer from this. |
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OT; mic for acoustic
