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Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!

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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-06-02 11:24 AM (#186106)
Subject: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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Maybelle Carter's Gibson is for sale:

Maybelle's Guitar

...sigh... and I can't even afford one of Al's Adamii! :( (yet) ;)
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-06-02 1:07 PM (#186107 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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Cuz,
Maybe Uncle Otto will buy it!! He's probably has that in loose change in the Mason Jars he keeps in the Basement! :D
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-06-02 1:11 PM (#186108 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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... I checked.... he moved the money and put it in the gas tank of the '56 Fairlaine that's on the blocks in the front yard.... cousin Ralph, his coon hound, won't let me near it! ... sigh...
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-06-02 1:17 PM (#186109 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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Three Raw Steaks will take care of the Coon Hound....Then Grab The Money...You'll get the guitar...and Cousin Ralph will be your Freind For Life!
Either That or Rosie the female Coon Hound Right down the Street will certainly distract him! :D
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2004-06-02 1:43 PM (#186110 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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... just checked... $575,000 for 1 guitar, that would buy about 400 new LX's and we could give them away to the "OFC Regulars"....
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Stevechapman
Posted 2004-06-02 2:44 PM (#186111 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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OK! Forget maybelle's Guitar. Lets Just Buy LX's! :D
You can get your Adamas first though! ;)
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cliff
Posted 2004-06-02 3:41 PM (#186112 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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I absolutely LOVE how this instrument is touted as being the "singlemost significant guitar in country music history", and yet not too long after June and Johnny are cold, the heirs yank it out of the Hall of Fame (where it was on "loan"), and put it up on the block with some astronomical pricetag!

I'm not a country music fan in the least, but the Hall of Fame should BUY the friggin' thing (at their asking price), put it back on permanent display there, and BAN the greedy fucks from every seeing it again for the rest of their miserable lives.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-02 3:59 PM (#186113 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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What Cliff said.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-06-02 4:13 PM (#186114 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!



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Newsflash: Gruhn adds, "AND the single most egregiously priced instrument in the history of country music...."

Hey, CWK: can we have some of your guitars for when you're gone?" :D
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-02 4:30 PM (#186115 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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H'mmm..... There's no doubt that Maybelle Carter was hugely influential but I just can't see this getting anywhere near the asking price unless some celeb buys it, maybe Marty Stuart so it can sit alongside Clarence White's B-bender Tele, or maybe McCartney so it'll look nice with Bill Black's bass. I don't think it would appeal to the kind of buyer who'd want an ex-Rock Legend guitar, most of them would think Maybelle was Jimmy Carter's mom. Also, and I know this is totally irrelevant to the value of instruments of historical importance or ex-celeb guitars, if it's the same guitar I saw in the Hall Of Fame last summer, it's a dog.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-06-02 4:39 PM (#186116 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!



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Woof!! Gruhn dogs cost more.
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Steve
Posted 2004-06-02 4:40 PM (#186117 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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...now, i'm curious if gruhn has a contract with the country music hall of fame, or if it's just a consignment thing, or if gruhn actually purchased the guitar outright...and i can't see marty stewart spending six figures for an old gibson...

steve
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-06-02 5:35 PM (#186118 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!



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George Gruhn is one of the best regarded authorities on the authenticity and value of vintage instruments, and his shop is in Nashville (I wonder if they ever washed my drool off of his windows....). Gruhn has sold rare instruments on consignment for many years, as well as buying them and selling them in his shop and via his mailing list (and more recently the Net).

Since he can make a pretty penny on this one without investing anything other than his time and reputation, my sneakin' hunch is that it is a consignment deal. But I may not be the only one speculatin' here.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-02 6:37 PM (#186119 - in reply to #186106)
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Despite his reputation & extensive knowledge Gruhn IMHO is a shark, a shameless self-publicist and at best the "Sgt Bilko" of the vintage guitar industry. He was bitching about ebay in a UK guitar mag a while ago, simply because ebay has diluted what he sees as his personal gene pool. Screw him and all like him.
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Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-06-02 7:10 PM (#186120 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!



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Paul T: I quite agree. My mentioning his reputation was not to toot his horn, but simply to opine as to why it isn't surprising that he has the guitar to sell and why I doubt he has any of his own money tied up in it.

His prices are too high and his reputation is just as inflated. BUT I did drool at his shop. There is no doubt that he has one of the best guitar collections in a city full of nice ones.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-06-02 11:08 PM (#186121 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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He also dislikes Ovations.

I agree with Temp.
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Bailey
Posted 2004-06-03 1:29 AM (#186122 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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I agree with just about all the comments here about this guitar and the outlandish price Mr. Gruhn is asking. All the arch tops in my opinion were second rate guitars but they looked good, especially the Gibsons. It is definately one of a kind and a piece of history, if anybody buys it, it will be someone with lots of bucks who either wants to donate it to the hall of fame or put it in their own glass case. As to Mr. Gruhn's comment that it just wants to play Carter songs, phooey, there is only one guy playing this kind of guitar and he has a good enough one. I can't remember his name but he plays with his sister and they are GOOD.

Bailey
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Nils
Posted 2004-06-03 2:06 AM (#186123 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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"...he plays with his sister and they are GOOD."

Sounds like an ad for a porno flick! :p

/\/\/
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-06-03 4:45 AM (#186124 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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Bailey, I guess you mean David Rawlings who plays with Gillian Welch (they're not related) He plays a mid-30's Epiphone Olympic, a small bodied budget model which sounds dreadful by itself, absoutely zero sustain, but is perfect for what they do as a duo. He's a great player. I promoted a concert with them a few years ago and they were a royal pain in the ass and a pair of primadonnas. As for all Archtops being "second rate" I'm sure Elmer Stromberg or John D'Angelico would beg to differ.
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alpep
Posted 2004-06-03 7:40 AM (#186125 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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Let me get "jersey" on you here.....


the guitar is purchased by someone with a ton of $$$$$ in turn they DONATE it to the Country music hall of fame. They get a HUGE tax break and cement their place in the world with a huge plaque that promotes their "kindness"


I may not have the money and power of the super rich but I think like one.
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Bailey
Posted 2004-06-04 1:27 AM (#186126 - in reply to #186106)
Subject: Re: Maybelle Carter's Guitar $575,000!


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Paul T

That's who it was, and I'm not surprised at their being prima donnas, I don't know where I got the idea they were related, but they do a very good show I have them on several videotapes. I am prejudiced against arch tops because the Army put them in every day room and they all were unplayable, I'm sure there were good ones but they weren't available to us ordinary people. I owned two or three that I paid 10 or 15 dollars for from soldiers transferring out overseas and they couldn't take them with them. One of them was pretty decent, but I gave it to a 13 or 14 year old black youngster that I met in the wrong side of the black section of Newport News, VA. His mother ran an establishment and he was already a great blues player and made that guitar sound good. I didn't care cause they all were setting in my '49 Ford parked off the base at Ft. Eustis and were liable to be stolen anyway. I just remembered what happened to the rest of them as I was transferred to Louisiana for a few months and left my car in the possession of one of my "buddies" who drove it so hard he burned a valve, helped, no doubt, by the 145 octane aviation fuel we were all siphoning from an F6F drone that we got from a drone outfit. when I got the car back from where he parked it, the guitars and my "buddy" were gone.

Bailey
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