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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-11-17 5:49 AM (#11749)
Subject: 97C owners: try this


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Like me, if you own one of these it's probably not your only 6 string. Try stringing it up with high-octave strings. I think this little guitar has found it's best voice. I bought a set of GHS Nashville High Tuning strings along with my last order with JustStrings.com, but if you have singles lying around to experiment with that works too. The gauges are 11, 15, 9, 11, 15, 20(wound).

You can't use it for everything, but in the right moment the sound is magical. We do 6-7 songs on a Sunday and every so often there'll be a song where it fits. I switch from my 12 string to the high-strung guitar and you should see the heads turn in my direction!

John <>{
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-11-17 6:45 AM (#11750 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this


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I can't say as I've ever heard of that gauge combo. Sounds interesting. Is that like half of a twelve string set?
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schroeder
Posted 2008-11-17 6:53 AM (#11751 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this


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Is that top to bottom (1st to 6th) or bottom to top (6th to 1st) John?
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muzza
Posted 2008-11-17 7:27 AM (#11752 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this



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OK, I'm making the assumption that it's still tuned e B G D A E, with the GDAE an octave higher?

Which songs 'fit'? Any we'd know?

And why do you only recommend it on a 97C?
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-11-17 7:44 AM (#11753 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this
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This is sometimes called "Nashville" tuning. It's the same as the octave strings from a 12-string set. It was discoverd by a hillybilly who figgered he could buy one pack of 12-string set and use it to string 2 guitars.

Toby
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-11-17 8:46 AM (#11754 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this


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This became common in studios in Nashville when they wanted to get a 12 string sound. Apparently it's a pain to record with a regular 12, but if you layer a regular 6 over another 6 with high-octave strings you get the sound of a 12.

My gauge listing is from high-E to low-E. You can simply use the high-octave strings from a 12 string set. These gauges are what you get from GHS when you order their "Nashville" set.

Why the 97C? I've done this with my full-size 6 string guitars and, while it certainly works, I can't dedicate my big 6 string to this tuning. The smaller size of the 97 reacts uniquely to the use of these high strings; the sound is enchanting.

What songs? I don't know exactly. I play 2nd guitar on our worship team. The 1st guitar is a Taylor 814 playing the main guitar part. I'm over on the side with my Pacemaker, Sweetwater T and high-strung guitars in the rack. I mostly use the Pacemaker to add rhythm and extra body to the dynamics of the songs. When my hands get tired or the 12 goes out of tune with no hope at the moment of re-tuning, I switch to the Sweetwater T. But sometimes... we do a sweet song where tiny high notes or strums add to the tenderness of the moment. Several Brian Doerksen songs come to mind. If you're familiar with Gordon Lightfoot's work, listen to Terry Clements' playing (or Red Shea on the pre-1970 songs.

Just playing by myself in my livingroom sounds nice, too.

John <>{
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-11-17 10:01 AM (#11755 - in reply to #11749)
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I might have to try this.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-17 10:06 AM (#11756 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this


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I've had guitars strung to Nashville or "high string" tuning. It's very cool and lends itself, when playing in a group, to capoing at a high fret and getting a very high tinkling sound.

For solo play, it's interesting but limited. I once heard a championship fingerpicker play a guitar that was strung that way, solo, and it was wonderful (he would have sounded wonderful playing a breadbox strung up).

My old '78 Legend sounded great strung up Nashville because it had no bass to begin with. I've got a friend who will occassionally string his Taylor Big Baby this way and play it in a group. Also a good guitar for it.....
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FlySig
Posted 2008-11-17 10:07 AM (#11757 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this



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Ima going to give this a try on the old AA13. It's a 3/4 size Applause starter guitar.
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stephent28
Posted 2008-11-17 12:01 PM (#11758 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this



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Nashville tuning is great for recording 2nd guitars to layer the sound and make it fuller.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-11-17 6:37 PM (#11759 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this


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FlySig...

I've tried it with that guitar; didn't sound very good maybe. I think the bowl is just too small.

This is the moment that gave me the inspiration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkMKmR32FiA
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-11-17 8:07 PM (#11760 - in reply to #11749)
Subject: Re: 97C owners: try this
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Ummmm, with a drop D... Might be nice.
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