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Gway |
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Joined: April 2007 Posts: 318 Location: Slightly northwest of Trader Jim | I have. I think I'm getting burnded out. I want to play everything I hear,I play some good,some not so good. I've found that even the songs I know are a stuggle. Anyone else feel the same. | ||
cholloway |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2791 Location: Atlanta, GA. | That's why I drink! I don't start sounding any better... but, I stop caring. | ||
Tim in Tidewater |
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Joined: December 2005 Posts: 1234 Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Every other day :D | ||
gh1 |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 972 Location: PDX | Yep. Then i pick up the guitar. _____ gh1 | ||
2ifbyC |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268 Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by Gway: Vanna, I'd like to buy an 'R'. Now, THAT's my constant state of musical turmoil. a stuggle. Hey Gary, just let it go for a day. :D | ||
Captain Lovehandles |
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Joined: July 2005 Posts: 3408 Location: GA USA | I have a couple of songs I practice a lot. I never seem to get quite good enough at them though. This week in the church band we have two new songs, and guess what? The progressions and keys are very similar to what I've been practicing for months. My first thought was that I'd slap a capo on and play the easy chords, but then I saw that I can actually play what would have stumped me before. That kind of breakthrough makes me want to practice more. | ||
TAFKAR |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985 Location: Sydney, Australia | Progress is slow. I have good days and then I have uncoordinated days where nothing seems to work. Having a day or two off every now and then doesn't hurt, also spend some time just playing some enjoyable things, that's what we want to get better for, so we can have more fun. | ||
Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12750 Location: Boise, Idaho | Happens all the time, but I've finally learned enough songs that I can play those and feel good about myself. If I learn too many more, I'll forget the ones I know now. Good excuse not to learn too fast. | ||
Tommy M. |
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Joined: January 2004 Posts: 627 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | Yea, we all get into our ruts. Just remember, playing the guitar is all about fun. | ||
TAFKAR |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985 Location: Sydney, Australia | Originally posted by Mark in Boise: I'm not in any danger of that! :)Good excuse not to learn too fast. | ||
CrimsonLake |
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Joined: August 2006 Posts: 3145 Location: Marlton, NJ | Originally posted by The Artist (FKA Richard): That's my normal state of affairs. I can learn songs - no problem. But playing them all the way through, mistake free...I'm not sure if that's ever happened....and then I have uncoordinated days where nothing seems to work. | ||
G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | All the time, Gary, all the time. Take a break - a day or two - then go back to it. | ||
flackster |
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Joined: September 2008 Posts: 757 Location: Melbourne Australia | I'll trade you some of your burned out talent for a 6 pack ;) | ||
Joe Rotax |
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Joined: February 2008 Posts: 747 | I don't struggle with it. I've been playing pretty much all my life and it is what it is - not great but I can hold my own - when I pick up the guitar something will come out and I'll work with that - I might write it down or I might forget it by the next day but when I pick up the guitar again something else will come out and I'll work with that for awhile - so on it goes until one day I cash in my chips or I can't play anymore. | ||
muzza |
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 3736 Location: Sunshine State, Australia | All the time, Gary. All the time. I feel like I've been stuck at the same level for the last 10 years, but in reality, I've slowly improved. I know how to play, I've got a good ear and can pick up the 'guts' of a song fairly quickly. My frustration stems from my lack of consistency and precision. I'm constantly reminded by loved ones that I can't expect to be much better than I am with 2 young children, 3/4 of the way through building my own house and a full time teaching job. I keep threatening to give it all up, but my love of making music keeps dragging me back from the edge. I was thinking of giving the 6 string a rest for a while and going back to my roots - playing bass. But the above reasons for not improving are the same reasons for not joining a band - no time to commit to it. No point in playing bass if you're not in a band. So, lucky I've got some REALLY nice Ovation acoustic guitars. My enjoyment MUST outweigh my frustrations coz I'm still playing. Put them away for a week or 2. Give yourself a rest. | ||
ozwatto |
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Joined: January 2007 Posts: 672 Location: New South Wales, Australia | Occasionally I get into that rut Gary but luckily it doesn't usually last too long. There's been plenty of times where I've put my guitar down and threatened never to touch it again, but 20 minutes later I can't help picking it up again.....because it feels good. Doesn't always sound good but I gave up on perfection a long time ago. Have a break if you need to and then get back into it. If you have someone or can find someone else to play with, that can be lots of fun and provide some new inspiration. | ||
Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1 |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 1017 Location: Budd Lake, NJ | Used to happen to me a lot, not so much now--mainly because I decided to put away the "yardstick." The thing that you're constantly measuring yourself against and getting down and frustrated because you don't measure up. (It's not something a 6-pack will let you get away from, either, at least not permanently.) Then I realized that I can spend all my time chasing someone else, or just let it go and relax. I'm not saying be lazy, or make excuses, or anything like that...just let yourself off the hook and enjoy where you are now. In some things (like fingerpicking) I don't think I'm any better than I was 10 years ago; in others, like strumming, I am better, even if it's just marginally. Most of all, like Popeye says, "I yam what I yam," and at 55, I'm finally o.k. with it. (A musical sweet potato? :D ) Would I like to be able to play like Segovia? Tony Rice? Abraham Laboriel? Of course...but my expectations are different now, and I'm o.k. with that, too. At my age, I'd rather just enjoy playing for playing's sake...and I do. --Karen | ||
Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | That about says it all Karen. Especially the yardstick refference. | ||
bvince |
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Joined: September 2005 Posts: 3618 Location: GATLINBURG TENNESSEE :) | I've had that same feeling many times, since I taught myself to play about 40 years ago. I picked up a lot of bad habits along the way that really hampered my playing. I realized That I had missed some really important elements. So ... I decided to take some lessons! I didn't have the time to go somewhere every week, so I purchased a really nice course on DVD that allows me to go at my own pace. I have since become really excited about learning some of those important steps I missed along the way. | ||
Mr. Ovation |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7210 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I guess I've referenced this a couple of times, but I think Karen and Vince summed me up for the past several years. I'm essentially self-taught, but used to practice enough to overcome whatever I needed/wanted to play. Unfortunately, my yardstick, is me. I want to play the songs I wrote and performed and finish recording them. Well step one is to just play them. That means I have to learn them again. And my playing is so bad, that I can't stand to hear me try to play them and it's so embarrassing to not remember how to play them, that I just put the guitar back down. I love looking at and hearing great guitars and players. But I haven't had any enjoyment from playing really in many years. Of course there have been moments, like at the Gathering on 4th of July this year, but as soon as I almost thought I got a groove started, my arthritis kicked in and sucked that glimmer of fun right out of my day and I didn't touch another guitar all weekend. After a few weeks or months I'll "get over it" and pick up a guitar again for a few minutes. Wash, rinse repeat. Been going that for quite a few years now. Frankly... Harry, that sucks. | ||
Trader Jim |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | My playing sucks, and I realize that. I have quite a few very nice guitars and have had a lot more come through my house. I just enjoy trying to play. I know I'll never sing or record any of it, I just enjoy messing around with them. Don't set the bar too high, or it'll become a chore instead of fun. Kind of like playing golf for a living. Probably takes all the fun out of the game. | ||
mcthumber |
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Joined: July 2008 Posts: 39 Location: MA | Vince, Could you tell us the name of the DVD you used? Maybe a link? Good & bad points about it? Thanks...--Mike | ||
Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | ...last time I got stuck in the "rut", I found this site: Backing Tracks and started downloading FREE tracks onto a CD. Played at home they're great! You can play with a band on the songs you already know, and the band mates never get pissed at you and your slow progress! Nor do they ever want a break or a raise! It has truly helped me to expand my musical vocabulary... try 'em! | ||
ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | The 4th really was fun, Miles. Thanks again for your hospitality. For me, I had been in a rut for many years, playing out occasionally, but never really growing musically. Then reinvigoration began two years ago after I joined a band, and I consider it a blessing. It can be a challenge to play new stuff every week, essentially reading everything and memorizing little, but my bandmates and numerous other regular vocalists that we accompany have become good friends, and I am enjoying almost every moment of the experience. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | This is why the Mermaid has been a big help to me. Got to write a different song for a new topic all the time. Sure you can skip a week, and recycle an old song that didn't cut it, buit you're always moving forward. When that needs a break do finger exercises, just play every note on the guitar going up and down, the trick is play them all the same and in constant time. It will halp your chops. I got a Jam man and it has a bunch of loop tracks and that helps. When I get them down I go play with Davis on a Thursday night. When all that fails, go golfing or get dinner. Then start thinking about the next song you got to write...... | ||
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