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outlander03
Posted 2008-11-19 8:54 AM (#11282)
Subject: New guy with a question


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Proud owner of a new (to me) Celebrity nylon sting (with new tuners and rosette). Having a great time with it. Spent most of my last guitar lesson talking about Ovation history and design with my teacher. One question that came up the neither he nor I could answer, "Why is the sound hole so big?" Its about an inch larger than a regular classical guitar.

Any ideas?

Thanks, Joe
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cholloway
Posted 2008-11-19 11:48 AM (#11283 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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Welcome Joe!

"Why is the sound hole so big?"

I think Ovation modeled it after some of the original members here on the OFC... :rolleyes:

as a tribute, of course! :D

Actually, I don't have a clue but, Welcome anyway!
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G8r
Posted 2008-11-19 11:54 AM (#11284 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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Welcome to the madhouse. Somebody knowledgeable will come along soon enough. And if not someone will BS his or her way through an answer.
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cliff
Posted 2008-11-19 12:01 PM (#11285 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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It's a relatively unknown fact that Glen's Mom had REALLY big hands, so the only way that she could effectively install the pre-amps was to make a sizeable soundhole in which for her to work through.
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cliff
Posted 2008-11-19 12:02 PM (#11286 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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. . . oh, and "Welcome!".
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marenostrum
Posted 2008-11-19 12:10 PM (#11287 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question



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Yes ...... Welcome !!!
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Auriemma
Posted 2008-11-19 1:16 PM (#11288 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question



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You don't have to be crazy to be an OFC member... but it helps!

Welcome.

Two answers come to mind:
1. Sound projection
2. Access to the interior (if it has electronics and not rear hatch)
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-11-19 2:54 PM (#11289 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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Some of the early Balladeers had smaller sound holes, but they went to what now seems to be the traditional size. I suspect that they didn't really model the classical Ovations after classical guitars, so they didn't go with the small soundhole. I have played a few really expensive classical guitars, though, and don't remember the soundholes being smaller. Don't know if there is a "standard".
If you look at my picture on the Social Network site (I'd do a link, but it takes me too long) it shows me tuning a $15,000 classical guitar in Barcelona. The soundhole looks like the same size as the Ovations.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-11-19 3:11 PM (#11290 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question
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Size of the soundhole needs to be "tuned" with respect to the body volume (capacity).

Professor Templeman please take over...
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cliff
Posted 2008-11-19 3:17 PM (#11291 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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". . Dr. Helmholz, . . . Paging Dr. Helmholz . . ."
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Weaser P
Posted 2008-11-19 3:44 PM (#11292 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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Great...can't find Temp and the defibrilator is missing again!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-11-19 4:06 PM (#11293 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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. . . he's hooked it up to his pedalboard
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schroeder
Posted 2008-11-19 4:20 PM (#11294 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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Next to the tequila drip.
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Beal
Posted 2008-11-19 5:52 PM (#11295 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question



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Big hands run in their family
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MWoody
Posted 2008-11-19 9:51 PM (#11296 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question



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as noses do in mine!

Welcome.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-11-20 7:07 AM (#11297 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Size of the soundhole needs to be "tuned" with respect to the body volume (capacity).

Professor Templeman please take over...
Correct. Ovation, and most larger steel-string guitars have a soundhole diameter of 4inches. Classical guitars have comparably smaller bodies, so their soundholes are usually a little smaller, around 3.5 to 3.75inches in diameter. Hardly a huge difference.

As the Celeb classic is based on an Ovation steelstring body-size a standard 4inch soundhole would be expected.
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outlander03
Posted 2008-11-20 7:12 AM (#11298 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Originally posted by Gallerinski:
Size of the soundhole needs to be "tuned" with respect to the body volume (capacity).

Professor Templeman please take over...
Correct. Ovation, and most larger steel-string guitars have a soundhole diameter of 4inches. Classical guitars have comparably smaller bodies, so their soundholes are usually a little smaller, around 3.5 to 3.75inches in diameter. Hardly a huge difference.

As the Celeb classic is based on an Ovation steelstring body-size a standard 4inch soundhole would be expected.
That makes sense. I'll pass that along. And thanks for all the other responses. I feel right at home. You folks are much more fun than the ones over at the Martin forum.
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muzza
Posted 2008-11-20 7:44 AM (#11299 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question



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Originally posted by outlander03:
I feel right at home. You folks are much more fun than the ones over at the Martin forum.
You wanna have some fun???

Go back to the Martin forum (or better still, the Acoustic Guitar Forum) and tell em you love Ovation guitars.

Then sit back and watch the poison spread. Don't bite back and fan the flames, just watch.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2008-11-20 9:33 AM (#11300 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question



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Originally posted by outlander03:
You folks are much more fun than the ones over at the Martin forum.
Maybe so, but we still don't have a Felix the Cat guitar like Martin does. Felix matches their historic time frame. Maybe Ovation should do a Fritz the Cat model for all the old hippies.

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an4340
Posted 2008-11-20 9:54 AM (#11301 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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To have even more fun, tell the martinites that you not only like ovations, but that they are superior for live work. That one's a barrel of laughs.
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-11-20 11:52 AM (#11302 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question



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Buncha Flamers....


....that's what we are. ;-)
OFC Ovation Flamers Club
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schroeder
Posted 2008-11-20 11:58 AM (#11303 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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Fritz The Cat would be cool.
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cliff
Posted 2008-11-20 12:22 PM (#11304 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question


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So would Bill the Cat
("Ack!!" . . .)
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-11-20 12:32 PM (#11305 - in reply to #11282)
Subject: Re: New guy with a question



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Originally posted by schroeder:
Fritz The Cat would be cool.
THEN we could talk about guitar porn!
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