The Ovation Fan Club
The Ovation Fan Club
Forum Search | Statistics | User Listing Forums | Calendars | Albums | Language
Your are viewing as a Guest. ( logon | register )
NEW in 2026 Searches both the Ovation FanClub and Ovation Tribute websites

Random quote: "I've always felt that blues, rock 'n' roll and country are just about a beat apart."-Waylon Jennings



Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
Pros and cons of zero fret

View previous thread :: View next thread
   Forums Archive -> The Vault: 2004-2005Message format
 
Standingovation
Posted 2004-11-02 4:34 AM (#174407)
Subject: Pros and cons of zero fret



Joined:
June 2002
Posts: 6202

Location: Phoenix AZ
Can anyone educate me on the pros and cons of a zero fret? Thanks.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-11-02 5:57 AM (#174408 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 5750

Location: Scotland
A nicely cut nut will wear out eventually, a zero-fret will not. Also, though this is pretty subtle, a zero fret can even out tonal diffences between fretted notes & open strings and can help eliminate unwanted resonance from behind the nut. The downside is that adjusting the action at the nut is a pain. Zero-frets were common on cheapo Italian & eastern-European guitars and even though they were used on decent European instruments such as Hagstrom & Hofner there is a stigma attached to them because they are perceived as a less skilfull way to manufacture. Consequently, zero-frets are rarely seen on US-made guitars
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Standingovation
Posted 2004-11-02 7:00 AM (#174409 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret



Joined:
June 2002
Posts: 6202

Location: Phoenix AZ
As expected, Professor T. (not to be confused with Mr. T.) comes through as the fount of knowledge. Although the term "nicely cut nut" does make me tense up a bit.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-11-02 7:25 AM (#174410 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15682

Location: SoCal
Doesn't Fender use zero frets? Chet Atkins was also a big proponent of them.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-11-02 7:42 AM (#174411 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 5750

Location: Scotland
Gretsch were one of the few USA manufacturers to routinely install zero-frets. Can't recall seeing a Fender with a zero-fret
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Paul Blanchard
Posted 2004-11-02 8:13 AM (#174412 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret



Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 1817

Location: Minden, Nebraska
Steinberger guitars have a Zero Fret. I don't know about Klein and other high end boutique guitars that are based upon Steinberger guitars.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
alpep
Posted 2004-11-02 8:15 AM (#174413 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 10583

Location: NJ
the zero fret basically means you don't have to be careful where you place the nut since that fret determines the scale length.

the current mojo is the buzz feiten system
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Duncan J
Posted 2004-11-02 8:31 AM (#174414 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
May 2004
Posts: 295

Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Martin has a zero-fret; it's one of those signature models, the Martin Carthy 000-18MC. List price is $3,199.

My Hagstrom Super Swede electric has a zero-fret (although up here in the winter it becomes a sub-zero fret!).
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Beal
Posted 2004-11-02 9:31 AM (#174415 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret



Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127

Location: 6 String Ranch
they suck.

next question.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
moody, p.i.
Posted 2004-11-02 9:43 AM (#174416 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
March 2002
Posts: 15682

Location: SoCal
Duncan, how old is your Hagstrom? Are they still in business? I remember seeing ads for them in Guitar Player in the late 60's thru the 70's and that was it.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Duncan J
Posted 2004-11-02 9:56 AM (#174417 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
May 2004
Posts: 295

Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
It's a strange story. Apparently a bunch of these Hagstroms sat in a warehouse or something for years, until they were "discovered." A local store got hold of a few in the 1980's, and I grabbed one; my brother also bought one. I really like it; it's a heavy beast, but has great sustain.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-11-02 10:21 AM (#174418 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 5750

Location: Scotland
Hagstrom are back in business, they relaunched at Frankfurt in March & at Summer Namm. A Jazz guitarist friend of mine has a couple of the 70's D'Aquisto-designed Hagstrom "Jimmy" guitars and they are very nice. Their Super Swede Les Paul style guitars were quite popular in Europe for a while. The Patch 2000 system which was available on certain Hagstrom models was one of the first reasonable guitar synths back in the mid-70's
Top of the page Bottom of the page
alpep
Posted 2004-11-02 2:20 PM (#174419 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
December 2001
Posts: 10583

Location: NJ
PT
I doubt if those hagstroms are swedes they are probably made in china
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Beal
Posted 2004-11-02 3:36 PM (#174420 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret



Joined:
January 2002
Posts: 14127

Location: 6 String Ranch
I remember back in the 80's watching the winter Olympics on TV at Helmut Schaller's house drinking wine with Karl Hagstrom. I think there was another Hagstrom brother and Rene, Helmut's son was there too. We solved all the world's problems that night. Don't remember who won the olympics though.
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Paul Templeman
Posted 2004-11-02 5:57 PM (#174421 - in reply to #174407)
Subject: Re: Pros and cons of zero fret


Joined:
February 2002
Posts: 5750

Location: Scotland
Originally posted by alpep:
PT
I doubt if those hagstroms are swedes they are probably made in china


Al, you're probably right. At the Shanghai show I saw Orange, HiWatt & Burns. All classic Brit gear from the 60's, with the bulk of their current production now coming out China.

http://www.hagstromguitars.com/
Top of the page Bottom of the page
Jump to page : 1
Now viewing page 1 [25 messages per page]
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread

This message board and website is not sponsored or affiliated with Ovation® Guitars in any way.
Registered to: The Ovation Fanclubâ„¢ Copyright (c) 2001
free counters
(Delete all cookies set by this site)