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Slipkid
Posted 2008-11-25 6:10 PM (#9929)
Subject: Collector disappointments??



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Are there any particular collectors editions that could be referred to as being not "up to standard"???
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-25 6:22 PM (#9930 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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What do you mean when you say "not up to standards"? How are you defining standards? There have been guitars that have been good guitars but not really innovative.....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-11-25 6:36 PM (#9931 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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I thought my first one, the 99, was great in the looks department, but subpar on sound. Saturday this guy came over to record stuff and he just went crazy over the 99. It's the only Optima preamp I have. Now he's watching one on ebay. I like them all. The only one I'm not crazy about is the one with the odd headstock, 88?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-11-25 6:48 PM (#9932 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??
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I have a burgundy '96C, '97C and '00C Lacewood. All three are great guitars. Of course the '97 is the 's azz!
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-11-25 6:49 PM (#9933 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
What do you mean when you say "not up to standards"? How are you defining standards? There have been guitars that have been good guitars but not really innovative.....
I get your point.
Nevermind.

At the time it seemed like a threadable topic.
Oh well... they can't all be home runs.
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JeffreyD
Posted 2008-11-25 6:56 PM (#9934 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I thought my first one, the 99, was great in the looks department, but subpar on sound. Saturday this guy came over to record stuff and he just went crazy over the 99. It's the only Optima preamp I have. Now he's watching one on ebay. I like them all. The only one I'm not crazy about is the one with the odd headstock, 88?
Just traded into an 88 Mark. Normal headstock. I must say this is my first shallow bowl however and it has left me pretty unimpressed. That said, it looks great and will have a fantastic action I think. Sound is ok, just ...I don't know...weak? It does have "unusual" fret markers and a 16 fret neck (something I have never heard of before).
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fillhixx
Posted 2008-11-25 6:58 PM (#9935 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??



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There are standards?


How did I get in?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-11-25 7:11 PM (#9936 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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I meant 89, with the weird headstock. I also think the shallow bowls are weak. They just don't have that boomey bass that I like. I imagine that a bass player wouldn't appreciate them, but others really do. I've had 2 SSB's and they didn't boom much, but when I had the 83 I picked it up as much as anything because it was such a great player and the top just seemed to sing. Some things are better with age. My daughter's boyfriend has the Custom Balladeer currently. He liked how it played and felt over all the others except the OFC and I wasn't going to let him borrow the OFC.
I didn't like the 06 when I first played it, but the Koa and bowl grew on me. They all seem to have their benefits.
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Beal
Posted 2008-11-25 7:34 PM (#9937 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??



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there were a few, particularly as the idea got old.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-11-25 8:19 PM (#9938 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??
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The ones with the 16 fret necks seemed a bit odd to me.

1988, 89, 90
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-11-25 9:08 PM (#9939 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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88 and 89 were both strange with long necks to the bodies and super shallow bowls. 90 had the same long neck but in a much better looking deep bowl package.

The difference between 87 and 88 seems to be "now that we've seen how beautiful a guitar we can build, let's see how ugly we can go...."
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Patch
Posted 2008-11-25 9:27 PM (#9940 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??



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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I thought my first one, the 99, was great in the looks department...Now he's watching one on ebay.
I'm keeping an eye on that one myself. I had one for a while and regret selling it. It definitely has a mellow sound to it, but that just makes it different, not worse (or better). No two of my guitars sounds the same, and that's the way I like it.
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sligoman
Posted 2008-11-25 11:07 PM (#9941 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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I've only had two, the '82 and '87. Both seem to be exceptional instruments. The need to develop one a year would, I guess, lead to some less exceptional.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2008-11-26 12:29 AM (#9942 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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My Adamas Milliniuem CB is the coolest looking guitar but I do not like the action on it at all.I dont even have an hour of playing time on it after having it for a few years and I would rather play a number of my different guitars than that one.
It still is a cool collectable.GWB
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TAFKAR
Posted 2008-11-26 12:38 AM (#9943 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??



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GWB: The Millenium is basically just a W597, the action is adjustable and you should be able to get a really slick low action by removing shims and maybe a bit of adjustment on the neck. My W597 had a beautiful action.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2008-11-26 12:48 AM (#9944 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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Hey Richard I removed all of the shims from it and It just doesnt seem to be anywhere near one of my favorite players.I think alot of it is just what you are use to but I think someone on this site said that they have heard that before from a Millinieum owner.
The only thing different on the Milliniuem and the 597 is the neck fluff.GWB
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2008-11-26 12:56 AM (#9945 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??



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Gee GWB... Maybe you're not supposed to play it?

I guess you are just supposed to hang it on the wall and look at it. :D
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dweezil
Posted 2008-11-28 3:56 AM (#9946 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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I sold my 01C, looked lovely but compared to my other collectors wasn't up to their 'standard'
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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2008-11-28 8:44 AM (#9947 - in reply to #9929)
Subject: Re: Collector disappointments??


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I have an 00 and 05 Collectors. I am not disappointed in either one...
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