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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | SOBeach - 2015-08-21 6:41 PM
Like inlaid eppies, but much prefer multi-piece design (at least 3-pieces). They're supposed to resemble dried grape leaves right? Otherwise might as well create a whole different design. imho
Like maybe WINGS?????? 
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | The Wings are kinda Kewel 
So is Kaki's gasket thingy.
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Location: undisclosed | For me the figured top is a problem as I can't understand how it helps the tone. The whole look reminds me of the east which is fine but its a bit garish for me. I like the visual appeal of good tonewood, what you see is what you get is very reassuring. As the good wood dries up I'd like to see all synthetic guitars or the carbon/wood laminate approach brought across the line. Bracing could wind up becoming simpler and climate stability would improve. Wood, or miracle fiber W, is great stuff but very individual in nature. A craftsman can use pieces to advantage but machines currently don't. From a manufacturing standpoint a superior sound could happen and you could paint it whatever rocked your boat |
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Location: undisclosed | Funnily enough, if you think about a laminate drum shell the last thin layer is for looks and doesn't affect the tone. Its the sort of thing a drum maker might carry over to guitars but the vibrations there are quite a bit more complex as the pitch is constantly changing . It would be good to know and hear what is under the "skin" on this one. Beauty is only skin deep and the eyes aren't the ears. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Cavalier - 2015-08-21 9:16 PM
For me the figured top is a problem as I can't understand how it helps the tone.
The whole look reminds me of the east which is fine but its a bit garish for me.
It was made in the East.
I am sure that the Korean Factory people are very Proud of making this.
Triangle fret markers. Abalone bling. Probably Ebony fingerboard and bridge.
But like SOBeach sez, Abalone seems to show-up on lower-end guitars.
I would add that the figured top appears a lot on budget guitars too.
I once had a BEAUTIFUL CS257 way-back-when...
Figured Top, Abalone Trim, Ruby Red Burst, it even had an OP-30.
But if you looked inside the manhole cover you could see that the underside of wood didn't match what appeared on the top... But it was an awesome-looking guitar.
Just to remind us what we are talking about...
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Location: Flahdaw | Might as well go for looks if you are gonna play plugged in with a peizo p/u. I love the figured tops and all the bling, but I play mostly unplugged, so tone really matters to me. Nothing beats a plain old red spruce or Adirondack top, imho. |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | darkbarguitar - 2015-08-22 10:43 PM
Might as well go for looks if you are gonna play plugged in with a peizo p/u. I love the figured tops and all the bling, but I play mostly unplugged, so tone really matters to me. Nothing beats a plain old red spruce or Adirondack top, imho.
So how much does the wood used in the top and the bracing underneath influence the sound of a plugged-in Ovation? How much of the natural resonance - if any - does the 'peizo p/u' pick up?
Almost every time I play for an audience, and it is always amplified, I am complimented on the beautiful sound of my Adamas 2081 or my Ute. The compliments come most often, but not always, from musicians in the audience. Without doubt they are beautiful instruments, but does the sound come from the soundboard or the pickup or both?
I might add that there is an increasing number of guitar and preamp/pick up manufacturers that have both peizo and mic inputs combined in their top shelf kits. What are they looking for?
Just wondering. :-) |
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Location: Flahdaw | I don't know for sure about the internal microphones some guitars now have, where you can get a blended sound from both the peizo and mic, but I suspect it doesn't read all THAT much from the top vibrating. The best way for that is good condenser mics placed externally in several places in front of the guitar. NOW you're talking about picking up the quality of a good guitar with a quality top. |
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Location: Texas | Bar is right (maybe) "Might as well go for looks if you are gonna play plugged in with a peizo p/u." disclaimer-as usual, I may be totally wrong here... The piezo pickup really doesnt care about the makeup of its' host. It cares about pressure and vibration more, then comes the pre-amp. Thusly you can get great "Ovation" reproduction out a EA Viper solidbody acoustic. On the steel side, Plug in an adirondack and then plug in veneer using the same pickup and I doubt you can tell the difference. The character of the sound produced is related more to the piezo than the top compositon/bracing etc, imo. On the nylon side, for Ovations...I think the piezo actually improves the acoustic resposne. The EA viper nylon, plugged in, imo, sounds better, than any O nylon acoustically. Yell at your piezo and see what response you get through the amp. Do you think you are getting all the resonance and character your acoustic has to offer? So there may be something to the internal mic/piezo combo that improves on the drawbacks of the piezo. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I think I'd prefer lighter maple binding to match the Epi's rather than the abalone, plus just a bit lighter burst to bring out a little more yellow, then the color scheme might look more integrated and headed in the same direction. Or it might look horrible. I do like exercises like this where we are provided an opportunity to comment on models under consideration, and I do tend to value form as much as function, sometimes even more so. After all, I do ride a Harley. |
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Location: Utah | I can hear differences between different O's and A's plugged in. The body does add to the tone. A laminate with a good sonic quality underlying wood might sound essentially as good plugged in as the same guitar with a solid top. I'd guess the rest of the structure is important too, not just the tone wood.
A figured top like the one in the picture would be highly praised on a solid body electric. |
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Location: undisclosed | I agree that the wood and structure is important. I noticed my Country Artist sounded better than the solid nylon string which had more of a plank sound. Subtle stuff o some levels but the better acoustic/electric should sound good plugged in or acoustic imho. Internal mikes do pick up the acoustic sound but are more prone to feedback too so some trade offs there. Might be a nice high end option but you could add one to any Ovation after market.
A maple cap on a solid body adds high end brightness improving definition giving a crisper tone. I wonder if it would brighten up a cedar core on a acoustic. It will affect how a top vibrates for good or bad. The marketing guys might have asked for something gorgeous without thinking about how the solid top fans would respond.
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Location: Colorado | I still want to play it...Can anyone tell the depth of the bowl? I like the burst...I too want multicolor epis...for this one ...in black, brow, orange and yellow....with lines dividing the colors in the color of the neck inlays |
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| its a mid contour bowl and its just a prototype. |
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Location: New Hartford CT | Thanks for chipping in xraider, appreciate your input. |
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Location: Utah | Mid contour? Interesting. |
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Location: Texas | lol...xman, at least you play well with others. I bet anyone on this board, including me, would take that proto and cherish it, if it was tossed in our direction. Thanks for allowing us to participate in the pre-game activities. |
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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota | amosmoses - 2015-08-24 5:59 PM
lol...xman, at least you play well with others. I bet anyone on this board, including me, would take that proto and cherish it, if it was tossed in our direction. Thanks for allowing us to participate in the pre-game activities.
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Location: sitting at my computer | xraiderman - even if you tell me my children are ugly.. "...eye of beholder." As long as they can sing they'll make lots of friends! |
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Location: moline,illinois | xraiderman - 2015-08-24 3:10 PM
its a mid contour bowl and its just a prototype.
Is this a brand new bowl design?
The label says C2078 and i thought the 2 in the begining denoted a deep contour bowl.
Inquiring minds want to know 
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Location: SoCal | Very Nice Looking - Made in Korea huh? |
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Location: undisclosed | At the NW gathering I tried and liked contour bowls. I like the idea of a mid depth contour bowl, sort of like the Artist bowl in size. They work well at higher volumes and still have enough body to play acoustic. The proto isn't ugly by a long stretch, just curious if the go matches the show.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Modern Saint - 2015-08-24 7:48 PM
Very Nice Looking - Made in Korea huh?
I want my Mercedes made in Germany.
I want my Rolls Royce made in England.
And I want my Ovation made in the USA.
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Location: Colorado | Thanks Bill....let Matt Smith Play it and we will see what she can do! |
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