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an4340
Posted 2005-07-20 12:10 PM (#143478 - in reply to #143428)
Subject: Re: Stay clear of any old Ovation???


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I heard the guy comes from Buffalo and Indiana. Worked in a steel mill. His downside is that he went to Harvard and worked for the government most of his life. Mixed bag. No one's perfect. Only time will tell.
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-20 12:19 PM (#143479 - in reply to #143428)
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So . . . how are those considered credentials to write guitar articles??
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Northcountry
Posted 2005-07-20 12:33 PM (#143480 - in reply to #143428)
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Jesus.... I can only imagine what the next article this guy writes about Ovations will sound like!

Man I got to make it to the next Fan Club Meet in Hartford!

If true "Character" makes the best musician. This bunch has got to be some of the best around! Your my kind of Nutz.

Randy
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an4340
Posted 2005-07-20 1:03 PM (#143481 - in reply to #143428)
Subject: Re: Stay clear of any old Ovation???


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LOL maybe they're the credentials to be a Supreme!
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-20 1:07 PM (#143482 - in reply to #143428)
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Why? is Dianna gettin' the group back together??
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Paulcc1
Posted 2005-07-20 2:42 PM (#143483 - in reply to #143428)
Subject: Re: Stay clear of any old Ovation???


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Speaking of the Supremes :eek:
The Supreme Corut today has decided that anyone who coments on a guitar they have never played will receive a Three month stay at a Correctional Facility near them.
Got to love me
Paul :cool:
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Paulcc1
Posted 2005-07-20 3:25 PM (#143484 - in reply to #143428)
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Court comments
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alpep
Posted 2005-07-20 4:30 PM (#143485 - in reply to #143428)
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well let's face it. saying an Ovation is made of plastic just enrages owners and fans of the guitar. I am sure if you went into a vette club and said plastic cars did not age as well as metal you would get the same reaction.

Ultimately why should we be surprised? people have been talking down Ovations since they started. We also have to admit that there area a bunch of Ovations out there with finish and top cracks out there. Any more than any other brand? probably not but they are more noticeable on an Ovation since only the top is wood.

I also find it interesting that he did not even mention Adamas guitars. I guess that carbon fiber does not age well either.

well I guess it is another case of chocolate and vanilla, today I pick strawberry.
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fumble finger style
Posted 2005-07-20 4:50 PM (#143486 - in reply to #143428)
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I've got a '73 Artist Balladeer that I bought new.

Nothin' wrong with My Ovation!
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GN-Nick
Posted 2005-07-20 5:57 PM (#143487 - in reply to #143428)
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Yes, yes I know I shouldn't have said plastic. I apologize.

No I didn't mention Adamas, but I didn't mention thousands of guitars.

Yes I have played Ovation. Yes I have owned Ovation. No there is nothing wrong with your Ovation.

I replied to a post on Guitarnoise linking to here saying that people should come here to ask you all questions if they were thinking of an Ovation.

Sorry, but that's the best I can do.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-07-20 6:01 PM (#143488 - in reply to #143428)
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Aw man, I wanna talk politics!
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beatlejuice53
Posted 2005-07-20 6:03 PM (#143489 - in reply to #143428)
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I wonder what Nick would say about Steinberger guitars and basses. Are they just plastic,too? And something to stay clear of? I guarantee you that the folks at steinbergerworld.com are just as passionate about their guitars as we are.The new ones and the old ones.
And yes, Al, Corvette owners are like that, too.

Bill
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-07-20 6:18 PM (#143490 - in reply to #143428)
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Now that you mention it, I never liked them plastic cars. Real cars should be made out of metal. Except for the carbon fiber Carrera GT that I'm going to get when I win the lottery.
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texbaz
Posted 2005-07-20 6:22 PM (#143491 - in reply to #143428)
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I just hope no one starts crackin on Indian Blankets!
The just drives CRAZYZ!!!!
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-20 6:52 PM (#143492 - in reply to #143428)
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The most amazing thing about this entire thread to me is that I actually saw Cliff almost write a mini-article (instead of his usual 2 lines of prose). Now if we could get W2 to write more than 1 line, we could all go to heaven!!


Cliff, I did like what you had to say....very elegant and eloquent!
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-20 7:11 PM (#143493 - in reply to #143428)
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when the golf pros go back to wood shafts, I'll consider a wood box.

if we lived in the past, we'd still be walking (or crawling.) was going to say "swinging by our tails" but I have heard stories.
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GN-Nick
Posted 2005-07-20 7:44 PM (#143494 - in reply to #143428)
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Perhaps you should read the article. I'm happy to discuss it after you have.

What would I say about Steinbergers? Probably not a good choice for a beginner considering a used guitar.

Which trem are you talking about? Are you including knock offs? The first go round or the latest?
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Paulcc1
Posted 2005-07-20 7:45 PM (#143495 - in reply to #143428)
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Aw man, I wanna talk politics!
Dear Moody no you don't
Paul
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-07-20 7:54 PM (#143496 - in reply to #143428)
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Sure I do! I luv ticking people off. It's one of the things a professional thug does best.
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GN-Nick
Posted 2005-07-20 8:02 PM (#143497 - in reply to #143428)
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So if you had $500 to plonk down on a used older Ovation, what model would you pick and why?

Remember not to use big words, I'm an F'in Idiot. :)
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Paulcc1
Posted 2005-07-20 8:03 PM (#143498 - in reply to #143428)
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Careful Paul somebody will lay hands and feet on ya. Then we will have to pray for your healing. :D
Paul
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E.Sherman
Posted 2005-07-20 8:03 PM (#143499 - in reply to #143428)
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Jeez guys. I never knew the OFC community could be so callous and misunderstanding.

You have to realize that most people don't like Ovations. We are a unique breed.

And yeah guys, please read the whole article. Besides the fact that it has useful information, you will realize that he wasn't bad-mouthing Ovations at all.

Sorry you had to encounter the OFC like this, Nick. We really aren't such a bad bunch.

And OFC guys- Nick isn't a bad guy either. I've talked to him on AIM several times and he's always ready and willing to give help, advice and input on all things guitar and musical.
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GN-Nick
Posted 2005-07-20 8:08 PM (#143500 - in reply to #143428)
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Thank you sir.

I must admit I deserved a good portion of what I got.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-07-20 8:09 PM (#143501 - in reply to #143428)
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Paulcc -- several people have tried to lay hands and feet on me. Been a long time since anybody's been successful.

Nick, with $500, I'd look for a mid 80's Legend, deep bowl, with a cutaway. A great sounding guitar acoustically, and it would have the OP24 preamp. There are a few of us that think that was one of the best.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-20 8:23 PM (#143502 - in reply to #143428)
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Nick,

From actual purchases over the last 6 months...shiny bowl Deluxe Baladeer, Country Artist, and the 1127 Glen Campbell Artist.

About eight months ago, shiny bowl 12-str Balladeer and Thunderhead.

Prior to that, three Adamas I's, a 1776 Patriot, and a Country Artist.

These are just my pre 1980 purchases, some pre 1970.

And, some new as well as some from 1980 to present.
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